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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (26 children)

I grew up in USSR and I certainly preferred it to what followed after the collapse. Claiming that it went nowhere is just brain dead. The fact is that USSR had to compete with the US empire after the war, and US being across the ocean was completely unscathed while USSR had to rebuild under duress. Of course, if you just ignore all that then you can make intellectually dishonest statements of the sort you do.

[–] Spinnyl 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

If you lived in Russia then sure. If you lived in any of the annexed countries and preferred the priviledge of not being able to travel, secret police checking your every fart and people dying while trying to, for some inexplicable reason, escape to the evil west, then you're a traitor to your own people.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

meanwhile in the real world

[–] Spinnyl 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, in the real world, some people have a very short and selective memories.

Fortunately statistics are quite clear in proving otherwise.

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/26/this-is-the-golden-age-eastern-europes-extraordinary-30-year-revival

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In reality, the "revival" wasn't evenly distributed. Lots of people became destitute and exploited in the process, while a small minority of parasites started to enjoy lavish lifestyles built on their backs.

[–] Spinnyl 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that is true and those obscenely rich people shouldn't exist.

But, for me, anything is better than being at the mercy of a tyrannical regime hell bent on controlling all aspect of your life, turning people against each other and removing them for their opinions.

The USSR era was the worst thing in the modern history of Europe (yet) and anyone who idealizes it is, at best, scum.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 10 months ago
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