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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (22 children)

lol holy shit, apparently a US chain is trying to do"AI-based" individualised pricing of goods in-store

can't wait to hear of someone being charged $500 for a packet of gum

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Common Kroger L.

They just got done being bullied into dropping plans to go to 100% self-checkout, too.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

I never really got the (E: thanks froztbyte, I meant user complaints here, there certainly are job complaints re self-checkout see reply below) complaints of self checkout, works great in most places in .nl I tried it.

And then the local Lidl got a self checkout. I now get why people hate those things, somebody really designed it with the idea of 'people in our stores are criminals we must catch' in mind. Turns out those styles of self checkouts are more common in EE as well. A small example of a problem with it. The part where you in other self checkouts would put your bag to put your stuff into was a scale, and because of that I couldn't put my bag there as I thought I was trying to sneak products through, and every item had to be placed there on the scale after weighing. (And then it didn't always work correctly). You could almost smell the security person who designed it going 'im gonna catch all those baddies!' (that could have also been me, I need to remember to wash my clothes). The machine also felt cheap, and the way the employees had to interact with it (they had to physically touch the machine with some key, and not use a tablet like all the other self checkouts (I had gotten something with alcohol in it)) didn't help this feeling.

Moral of the story, there are ways to do self checkout better than others.

[–] mlen@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I run into this process every time I visit Poland (mostly because I visit so rarely that I forget) and every time I'm astonished how seriously fucked up it is.

The most annoying part is having to scan a receipt in order to exit the self checkout area.

In the stark contrast to the above self checkout process in Switzerland works so smoothly. Mostly because nobody is subjected to the bullshit described above. There's even an option to grab a scanner, scan everything on the go and just pay at exit.

[–] m@blat.at 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@mlen @Soyweiser And yes, they do random checks (sorry, Stichproben :) ) but they mostly consist of a person scanning the first few items they grab out of the bag and if they were all scanned previously then you’re good to go. Takes about 10 seconds.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago

'Steekproef/steekproeven/Steekproefsgewijs' Here.

Do note that I have some suspicions that these random checks are not random and are in fact tied to some ML algorithm combined with all the new cameras that are in supermarkets now.

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