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So ... all reports of the CPUs performance being shit or way below expectations are just due to windows. As always.
Based and true
I hate reviewers doing that. It's like buying a sports car and rating it on what you are legally allowed to drive. It doesn't make any sense. Also, windows performance will vary extremely depending on privacy settings, edition and country (eg. due to the EUs privacy regulations). A minimal Arch setup will ALWAYS be the same in every aspect. No new shit no one needs. No performance-wasting malware by default. Just an OS.
Reviewers like Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed serve the Windows gamer market first. If you game on Windows you want to know the best price/performance for your purposes. Benchmarking kernel compiles and database transactions on Linux has zero relevance to a Windows gamer, particularly if Microsoft bugs cause the performance not to translate.
If we only looked at raw hardware performance and ignored platform support we might evaluate Nvidia only on Windows and determine they are the best graphics cards for Linux users which would be insane. Platform support matters to an audience.
The vast majority of sports cars never ever drive on a circuit so yes they should be tested on normal roads.
The argume t would be that their job is to advise buyers on the performance they would see. If most buyers are using windows and gaming then they should report windows gaming numbers.
However, there's a lot of people who aren't doing that and I'm not sure where we are meant to get our numbers from. Phronix I guess.
Yeah really should be testing on freebsd and minimal linux distros. Could much easier automate the entire test process then too
But the numbers would mean nothing for the consumers. You abstract away too much and reduce it too far for anyone outside the loop to make sense
The opposite really, you'd be able to see when consumers are getting screwed over due to the OS
You would have to keep the windows reviews too
Youre confusing comparison of os' with hardware reviews. It makes no sense to use an arch benchmark for a public is majority windows based gamers. The arch benchmark would make sense for a journalistic piece about windows having terrible performance.
Hence why id love for gamers nexus to investigate this using a linux to windows comparison for the same task. However, this would no longer have anything to do with zen5
Hard disagree, if you only ever test on windows then you're testing the OS, not the hardware. You should be testing on both
Yeah, it was already found to be a bug in the Windows scheduler
I would hold on the conclusion for now. Steve from HW Unboxed tested both Zen 4 and Zen 5 with the "supposed" fix and both had improved performance so the rough difference between Zen 4 and Zen 5 remained almost the same as the issue was affecting both. We will need to see more tests though to draw a reasonable conclusion. We don't yet know if this also affects older Zen 3 at all or not.