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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (34 children)

Let's add: "Jihadism is dangerous"

"Hamas is a terrorist organisation"

"Innocent should not die no matter if they were born in Tel Aviv or in Gaza"

"7 of October of 2023 was a terrorist attack"

"Situation in a conflict zone where both sides has been killing each other for decades is not simple and has no simple solution"

"Blindly supporting muyahidins, I mean, intifada, has not a good historic record"

"A Hamas led Palestine would be very similar to any other Islamic dictatorship, which is not good for Palestinians, specially women and LGBT"

Under any circumstances innocents should die, and anyone (ANYONE) killing civilians is a piece of shit. But the fact that Israel government is a Piece of Shit does not mean that Hamas is not also a Piece of Shit. Some people seems to forget that when it comes to codemn the cruelties inflicted in that region.

[–] Allero 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I can even agree, to a degree.

You see - if Hamas would have an upper hand against Israel, it would absolutely direct forces to massacre Jews and kickstart apartheid and everyone would be cheering for Israel and against Palestine.

But here we are, with Israel being bigger and stronger and using its advantage to raze Palestine to the ground along with innocent people who did nothing to deserve this. And that's why people are pro-Palestine, really.

Also, while women and LGBT folks may suffer in their rights under an Islamic dictatorship, this is kinda better than just being dead. Israel does just that, and many in the Israeli command have made it very clear they do not care about the rights of Palestinian civilians.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I do understand that people tend to feel more inclined to side with the "weak part" of a fight. But being the weak part does not mean being in the right.

Both sides of a conflict can be wrong, even if someone is imposing their wrong on the others by a stronger use of force.

But I know how Hamas would masacrate Israeli civilians if given the chance and I cannot support that.

We need to thing a third way, different to what both sides are currently proposing and trying to do.

I think figures like Gandhi or MLK showed how to fight oppression without going into blatant murder and Jihad.

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