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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

You know, This kind of shit happens so frequently anymore that if you're dumb enough to buy things that, for absolutely no reason, requires an internet connection and/or an app.. Then you deserve what you get.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes let's make this the consumers' fault, what with their limitless power in this dystopian fuckscape

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"Its not my fault that I bought a stupid device for $$$Texas more than a normal product and created the market for it, its their fault for making it available for me to choose to buy!"

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Gross oversimplification of a complex issue by a corpo bootlicker? Color me shocked...

They control the market, idiot. As well as the regulatory mechanisms for it.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, because a corpo bootlicker is gonna tell you to stop buying their overpriced crap and creating a market for it

Cause corpo bootlickers are notorious for wanting to harm the companies that do stupid and/or bad

Fucking galaxy brain over here, thinking hes a genius cause hes a literal parrot repeating tidbits of what other people said without any consideration for thought or context.

You can't keep throwing money at these awful companies, buying these awful products, and expect them to fucking stop. at some point you're gonna have to fucking admit you're gonna have to make a sacrifice and actually fucking speak with your wallet.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

There there, you are very smart, now piss off

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's sometimes hard to find, I needed a new stove, all the ones I could afford and that had what we needed had a fucking internet connection. I fucking hate it.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not being sarcastic or attacking or anything, but I find that hard to believe. I spent 2 minutes before posting this looking at ranges and ovens (I dont know if you're talking about a complete stove unit (burners on top of an oven in a self contained stand alone package) or the oven unit that mounts into a wall, so I looked at both in that time) and I found tons that were cheap (well, cheap as far as these devices ago at least) and none of them had smart connectivity.

It wasnt until I was getting into the high cost items that were $5000+ that smart stuff started appearing.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish! The entire range is what we needed, had to be propane compatible, it was around 1k, at home depot. I genuinely try to avoid IoT bull shit.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Almost all ranges are propane compatible but will require the effort of installing the (included) propane conversion kit. The exception is Frigidaire, where the kit has to be purchased separately.

FYI, most of Whirlpool's range lineup (including Amana, Maytag and the non-"Pro" KitchenAid models), all of Frigidaire's range lineup, most of GE's base line range lineup (not Profile or Café) do not have Wi-Fi capability. It's mostly Samsung and LG pathologically putting connectivity into everything they make.

What features did you need that you couldn't avoid connectivity? I just queried my own product database and came up with 202 models that are LP compatible without purchase of a kit and do not have Wi-Fi capability. 261 if you're willing to countenance Frigidaire. And even among most of those that do have connectivity (KitchenAid's "Pro" models being an irritating exception) you don't need to connect to Wi-Fi or use the app for any functionality of the appliance; it's just an extra.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'm happy you were able to find all those example. I couldn't. It's too late in any case.

[–] TurdMongler@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you shopping at best buy?

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Find a scratch and dent place near you. Thats pretty much where I get all my appliances. Often the cosmetic issues are not even noticable, and if they are, they are often in a place that you wont see since they'll be hidden by cabinets or what have you.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'm quite remote, there aren't very many options where I am, otherwise that would have been a great option. But whatever it was, it would have had to be compatible with propane which makes it a bit trickier.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hey, I may be a random idiot, but I've never fuckin paid a 300%+ premium for a smart device, nor cried when it predictably either died early or started charging for use because corporate fuckery.

You had the choice to not buy it, You can not in the year 2024, not be aware of how this shit always, inevitably goes down.