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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dumb question: why do you feel you need to defend billion dollar companies getting even richer off somebody else's work?

Also Van Gogh's works are public domain now.

[–] Vince@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm not defending any companies, just thinking out loud, but I supposed I can see if that's how it reads.

I was just asking myself why it feels wrong when a machine does it vs when a human does it. By your argument, would it be ok if some poor nobody invented and is using this technology vs a billion dollar company? Is that why it feels wrong?

[–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The issue isn't the final, individual art pieces, it's the scale. An AI can produce sub-par art quickly enough to threaten the livelyhood of artists, especially now that there is far too much art for anyone to consume and appreciate. AI art can win attention via spam, drowning out human artists.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The issue isn't the final, individual art pieces, it's the scale. An AI can produce sub-par art quickly enough to threaten the livelyhood of artists, especially now that there is far too much art for anyone to consume and appreciate. AI art can win attention via spam, drowning out human artists.

This is literally what people said about photography.

And they were right, painting became less prolific as photography became available to the masses. People generally don’t get their portrait painted.

But people also generally don’t go to photo studios to have their picture taken, either, and those used to be in every shopping mall. But now we all have camera phones that adjust lighting and color and focus for us, and we can send a sufficiently decent picture off to be printed and mailed back to us. For those who want it done professionally that option is available and will be higher quality, just like portrait painting is still available, but technology has shrunk those client pools.

Technology always changes job markets. Generative AI will, just as others have done. People will lose careers they thought were stable, and it will be awful, but this isn’t anything unique to generative AI.

The only constant is that things change.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

A generative AIs only purpose is to generate "works". So it's only purpose in consuming "work" is to use them as reference. It exists to produce derivative works. Therefore the person feading the original work into the machine is the one making the choice on how that work will be used.

A human can consume a "work" for no other reason but to admire it, be entertained by it, be educated by it, to evoke an emotion and finally to produce another work based on it. Here the consumer of the work is the one deciding how it will be used. They are the ones responsible.