Yeah this is the answer right here. The fossil fuel industry and their conservative allies (as well as far too many liberal politicians) have been feeding into a propaganda machine that has been fear-mongering climate change policies, telling the public continually that all those policies are going to do nothing but raise the price of gas or remove some convenience they have. I remember that time when Republicans were fear-mongering that the Democrats were coming after people's gas stoves, as if that was something that was even remotely likely. It was so fucking stupid but people were like "You can't take my stove!!!" like a bunch of dumb shits. I remember one dingus on Fox News who strapped himself to his gas stove like there was a demolition team coming to his house to take it down any minute as an idiotic publicity stunt. Literally no one but the drones who watch Fox News cared.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The stove thing was in response to legislation that passed here in California. The law says that no new residential construction may include gas appliances.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Big Cringe in response to minor cringe

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That was not a complete ban. They are still allowed to construct houses with gas fixtures for gas stoves and appliances. But they are mandated to include electric fixtures for electric appliances and heating so effectively you would have to pay for the installation of both if you wanted gas.

Though it should be noted there is a plan to pass a law in 2030 fully banning natural gas installations in new housing.

And honestly, IMO it is quite a stupid ass move. California has massive power issues and the idea that they're going to increase their load before they have a sufficient supply is just moronic.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks for the clarification, clearly I conflated the two pieces of legislation.

Umm? Power problems? We managed to hit 100% renewable power production for the state several times this year. We don't need fissile fuels, except as a stop gap.

I will fully admit that due to my excessive amount of solar production, and battery backup, I don't ever know when there is a power outage. So if they are having issues, I wouldn't be aware of it despite living in San Diego

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

https://abcnews.go.com/US/california-blackouts-power-grid/story?id=89460998

Literally the entire State has to walk on eggshells power wise during the summer in order to avoid a cascading failure or having controlled blackouts in order to prevent a cascading failure. And they're proposing to add even more power demanding appliances to that grid. I'm sorry but this is a poorly thought out plan of action. Maybe if they built a couple more nuclear plants they could manage but wind and solar farms aren't going to cut it.

Edit: all of this on top of the fact that our climate is getting hotter year after year so even more power is going to be necessary for air conditioning in more and more areas within the state even those that don't see such hot Summers previously will start to put a strain on the grid trying to keep cool in the summer. All of this on top of the likely dwindling supply of power from the Hoover dam due to the receding Colorado River, also due to climate change BTW.