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Finally, another web engine is being developed to compete with Chromium and Firefox (Gecko), and they're also working on a browser that will use it.

Here's the maintainer talking about the current state of the project, and a demo of the current functionality

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some of the new features most people aren't aware of us that I used recently :

  • WebXR, make a Web page immersive and work in the browser of VR/AR headsets, e.g Meta Quest, Lynx XR1, Apple Vision Pro, etc
  • WebBlueTooth, connect to a BT device, e.g a Lego controller in order to move actuator, data from sensors, etc
  • WebUSB, connect a device and update its firmware, e.g SmartWatch, mechanical keyboard, etc
  • GamePad API, use a gamepad or joystick to play from a browser window
  • Realms in JavaScript for "better" sandboxing, it's a relatively new feature of the language so the engine must be updated

So... sure none of that really helps to read a 2D Web page (like this one on Lemmy) but they pretty much all help to achieve better cross-platform support. By using the Web rather than native to connect to hardware then it is instantly delivered without having any OS specific driver to build and install. Practically speaking it does make the browser increasingly complex but IMHO it is worth it.

PS: I probably also used some modern CSS so there also the engine (which is ridiculously complex by the way) has to be updated too.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Web Bluetooth and web USB aren't web standards and are Chromium specific

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

AFAICT that's correct for WebBluetooth indeed, as it's only implemented by Chromium (and thus all browsers relying on it) but for but for WebUSB https://wicg.github.io/webusb/ it's still being discussed at the W3C level so even though not standards (which I don't think W3C even produce, only API specifications, e.g HTML isn't a standard whereas Bluetooth is) thus allowing others to possibly implement it.

To clarify Firefox is my main browser, but (sadly) for those very specific cases I'm relying on Chromium (WebXR on standalone XR devices, even now Wolvic switching to Chromium as a backend).

It's an important point as by doing this Google is pushing for it's own set of technologies and is pushing for it's own engine which comes with a lot of business (namely ads) related "feature" e.g Manifest v3 that aren't good for privacy.

That is also interesting to consider on "why" a browser keeps on evolving, i.e having the most "advanced" browsers does give an edge and pushes competition away.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

From a security and privacy stand point webUSB and web Bluetooth seem very bad. We already see webRTC and webGL being abused.