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Finally, another web engine is being developed to compete with Chromium and Firefox (Gecko), and they're also working on a browser that will use it.

Here's the maintainer talking about the current state of the project, and a demo of the current functionality

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Such accusations should really be followed by a source.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] sunglocto@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This was resolved and the PR was merged

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, it wasn't. You might say that the issue was sidestepped, because it says "it", rather than "they", now.

I guess it was an overreaction by mastodon, though. Even if I understand the initial criticism.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

'It' is gender neutral so it was resolved

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You claimed the PR was merged.

[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A PR fixing all those issues was merged.

They used "they" when referring to a person, and "it" when referring to a process (the author used "he" when referring to a process calling another process, when he should have used "it.")

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] sunglocto@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does it matter? It's the same outcome either way

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

It doesn't really address the core of the issue. Also: you said something wrong and ri corrected you, while acknowledging that the text was gender neutral now. What's the big deal?

[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Jumping to transphobic and misogynistic for not wanting to use inclusive language in some repo documentation is a big jump. He didn't ever dead named anyone or refuse to use some person preferred pronoums. Its just not wanting to use inclusive language on documentation. Most, if not all, documentation I have ever read in my life don't use the newest trend of inclusive language.

By they way accusations were written it seemed like devs were actually exposing hate speech or something like that.

Let's not be like that, ok? At least I choose not be like that. You can destroy people lives with such accusations over basically nothing, be better.

I know that we are near Americans elections as it always makes the whole internet jumping, and throwing knives to find "the enemy". But it could be as simple as inclusive language might be confusing for non english speakers, or might the trend change over time and it's just a bother to keep updating with the lastest trend. Do you know how many versions of inclusive language did we have in my language? We started using ell@s, then ellxs, then ellos y ellas, then elles, then ellos, ellas y elles. It's too volatile and little to be that mad over it. Specially when there's people out there who truly hate anyone who is not a cis str male and is doing true hate speech over that.

If there's more evidence of devs being evil, I will aknowledge it. But for such a little inconsequential thing (again it's not even being against someone chosen pronoums, it's just general documentation) I refuse to spread hate towards other human being.

[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've seen some inclusive tech docs in which they (ha!) use "she" instead of "he" or "they." I thought that was cool.

Are people writing "she" instead of "they" misogynistic and transphobic too?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are people writing “she” instead of “they” misogynistic and transphobic too?

There's no such thing as "reverse racism", "misandry", etc. That's not how systemic oppression works.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Right, "reverse racism" and "misandry" are just plain ol' prejudice.

I guess it's up to you whether you think being prejudice is only bad if you belong to the group systemically in power, or if you think being prejudice against someone for the circumstances of their birth is bad regardless of either party's systemic stature, but we should be correct in our use of language.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I also try to use the feminine as neutral instead of masculine. -Note: I'm Spanish so our language is heavily gendered- Mostly because I think that sounds better than the trend of using a newly introduced neutral gender that sounds terrible because Spanish language never had neutral.

Also if someone gets angry for that I have always the reply "now you know a little on how women fell during all story"

But still, neutral and inclusive language is still too new and far away from normalization to get mad at people on how they use it or not use. And if you are not deadnaming or deadgendering (is that a word?) you are not really hurting anyone.