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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

But what if I don’t mind engaging with fascists? I don’t personally find it harmful to me to debate them, and I don’t like leaving their claims unchallenged.

Obviously one needs a slightly different approach when dealing with people that are not engaging in good faith, but I still think there’s value in helping the community understand why and how they are wrong.

I also enjoy that debate motivates me to do research and understand the issues more deeply. This is valuable for me, even if I don’t persuade anyone else about anything.

I understand some people may not want to do this, and I respect that and am happy to do this so they don’t have to. But if you’re like me, I don’t see any reason not to push back even if it does take some time.

[–] RosethornRangerTTV@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

this is answered in the video

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I watched it but I didn’t find the reasons compelling. That it’s difficult or possibly stressful doesn’t really interact with the reasons I have for doing it.

Maybe you can elaborate on what you mean and how you think the video addresses this?

[–] RosethornRangerTTV@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"It takes longer to disprove one than make it."

if you spend time disproving their comments, they will simply make more because if you are wasting your time disproving them then you aren't working on building social structures to resist them. It is gifting them power.

I will now block you so I can focus on productive discussions.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago

OK do whatever you want but that is a weirdly aggressive approach to discourse.

Disputing misinformation is a form of social power, and realistically I’m not going to spend my online time organizing—it’s a form of recreation, and it doesn’t really compete with my work time. I don’t see those two things as competing. Regardless of what I do they will keep spreading misinformation but if people see the rebuttal they will be primed to reject it when they see it again even if I don’t have the time to respond to every one.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Weird spin. It looked like a productive and friendly conversation -- and they even bothered to watch the video! Do you block everyone that challenges anything you say? That's not blocking fascism, that's backing yourself into a carefully curated echo chamber.

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