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My brother seems to not care about his online privacy. He registers to services too easily without pondering, he’s not outraged we need a fucking account to use a vacuum cleaner, it seems he doesn’t care about all the potential risks of having videos of our indoors saved in a cloud. I don’t have strong arguments to convince him that privacy matters other than “if someone gets that, you could be in trouble” and “it’s like having someone watching you h24” and so on. How can i persuade him?

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[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 94 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

You can't. As more generations are born into a world where 24 hour a day surveillance, constant data tracking, and a monthly subscription for literally everything are the norms the expectation of any kind of privacy will sound like something from a history book.

Soon it will seem odd to people that anyone wouldn't want every thought and action to be tracked and recorded by our corporate overlords. People who try to maintain any type of real privacy will be seen as misanthropic at best or highly suspicious at worst.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

If they agree that Trump/Republicans are fascist, ask them why they think it's an acceptable risk to allow the government to construct the most pervasive and advanced surveillance state that has ever existed for fascism — a system so advanced it would make Himmler cream his pants — why build big brother so all they have to do is simply take over, turn a key, and use it against the world?

If they're insane and think Trump/Republicans are the good guys, repeat the above but swap out the perpetrator for liberals/trans/immigrants, or whatever "other" is the flavor of the week.

If they're not American, ask them what they think will happen if the world's strongest ever superpower — a kleptocratic failed state, straddling the knifes edge of fascism — with a secret police who have backdoor access to the tracking device in their pocket, all their data, and all their historic communications — became a fascist dictatorship? ... Point out how "woke" they are (sex before marriage, gay marriage, whatever) ... and ask them how comfortable they would be if the tens of thousands of people working at the NSA/CIA were converted into fascist "troll farms", and started using AI and analytics of all their personal data, to unilaterally wage a cyber war on everyone they deem "woke"? Do they think their government or military could defend them from a bad actor that has the ability to hack anyone on Earth... A bad actor who, if they want you out of the picture, just has to remote into your machine, download some child porn, and tip off the local police... Good luck trying to prove your innocence. You don't even know what most of those words mean! You weren't even aware that this was a possibility 30 seconds ago!

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 4 weeks ago

at least if there is a case of mistaken identity, all that surveillance becomes a great alibi /s