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It’s not just “Uncommitted” activists who are pressuring Kamala Harris on Gaza policy. Her own delegates are speaking out.

Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20240821013836/https://theintercept.com/2024/08/20/dnc-harris-gaza-uncommitted-protest/

SpinScore: https://spinscore.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheintercept.com%2F2024%2F08%2F20%2Fdnc-harris-gaza-uncommitted-protest%2F

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[–] Barx@hexbear.net 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Joe Biden has been supporting the genocide of Palestinians for almost a year. It is public knowledge and there is a significant movement against it that these people are now literally trying to suppress.

"Thank you Joe" is a silly little bit of propaganda meant to derail all thought about both Biden's obvious senility (as if he stepped down by choice, lol) and gloss over all criticism of Biden, such as his support for a genocide.

Personally, I think it's pretty easy to just not support genociding Palestinians by not helping run interference for its primary sponsors. Unfortunately you seem to think this is difficult or, perhaps, complex. I would be happy to help you out if you need any assistance.

[–] unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, I recall the speeches Biden has given where he rallies the crowd against the Palestinian scourge!

Look, I'm not arguing that the Israelis are doing anything positive, I'm merely suggesting that the venn diagram of people who are thankful that Biden dropped out and people who support genocide is not a circle.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 4 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, I recall the speeches Biden has given where he rallies the crowd against the Palestinian scourge!

Biden - of course, he is senile, so he is just a stand-in for the current Dem leadership - provides unconditional military, diplomatic, and financial support to Israel in their campaign to destroy Gaza. For example, the JDAMs used so extensively to destroy schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, bakeries, refugee camps, etc, are exclusively manufactured by Boeing and Israel "buys" them via US "aid", which, in reality, is just the US government buying the weapons and giving them to Israel to commit genocide with. The US lashes out at every attempt to reign in Israel via diplomacy, gladly carries water for obvious lies intended to justify the genocide, and props up the Israeli economy through direct investment and trade relationships.

But sure, as I already mentioned, liberals try to whitewash and deflect from the genocide they know they are supporting. They use euphemisms and start acting erratically when you remind them of what they are celebrating. But everyone knows what unconditional material support for Israel's genocide means. You know what it means.

Look, I'm not arguing that the Israelis are doing anything positive

They are ethnically cleansing Gaza as part of a settler colonial apartheid project that depends on US support.

I'm merely suggesting that the venn diagram of people who are thankful that Biden dropped out and people who support genocide is not a circle.

I've already described the function of this. Feel free to directly address it rather than hem and haw.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Yes, I recall the speeches Biden has given where he rallies the crowd against the Palestinian scourge!

This is like gesturing at W's lip service in speeches about how the War on Terror wasn't a war on Muslims. Do I need to explain to you how history did not bear out that distinction?

The difference here is that we can see the people Biden is unconditionally supporting in Israel and they most certainly are rallying crowds against the Palestinian scourge.

Biden doing his best to make the slaughter palatable to credulous liberals who want to focus on brunch does not change the reality on the ground. Harris, for the record, is no different except that she isn't senile.