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First off, sorry if this is the wrong to community to post to - I'll move it somewhere else should it not fit the community.

My best friend quite often is a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian, I feel like. Discussing politics, veganism, the problems with using Amazon, what have you, with him is nigh impossible because he insists on his opinion and won't budge. I feel like he just feels superior to other people, or at least to me, in a way that he just won't change his mind, doesn't hear other sides, and argues for the sake of arguing.

Now, in a recent discussion, I asked him if he knew why images aren't displayed properly in my Firefox-fork browser (Mull). He gave an answer and asked why I would use a custom browser instead of Firefox itself to which I responded that it's more privacy-focused and that I didn't like Mozilla's implementation of AI in their browser.

Long story short, it devolved into a lengthy discussion about AI, how the fear of AI is based on ignorance and a lack of knowledge, that it's fine that AI is used for creative projects because in most cases it's an assisting tool that aids creativity, doesn't steal jobs etc. essentially that it's just a tool to be used like a hammer would be.

What pisses me off the most about all this is that he subtly implies that I don't know enough about the subject to have an opinion on it and that I don't have any sources to prove my points so they're essentially void.

How do I deal with this? Whatever facts I name he just shrugs off with "counter"-arguments. I've sent him articles that he doesn't accept as sources. This has been going on for a couple hours now and I don't know what to tell him. Do you guys have sources I could shove in his face? Any other facts I should throw his way?

Thank you in advance

Edit: A thing to add: I wasn't trying to convince him that AI itself is bad - there are useful usages of AI that I won't ignore. What I was concerned about is the way AI is used in any and all products nowadays that don't need AI to function at all, like some AI-powered light bulbs or whatever; that creative jobs and arts are actively harmed by people scraping data and art from artists to create derivative "art"; that it's used to influence politics (Trump, Gaza). These things. The way AI is used in its unmonitored way is just dangerous, I feel like

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[โ€“] yuuunikki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean idc about ai either, what other people choose to like has no effect on me whatsoever

[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The electricity requirements and carbon footprint of the currently projected usage of LLMs is staggering and if you like living in an inhabitable environment, you should care.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/12/05/1084417/ais-carbon-footprint-is-bigger-than-you-think/

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00478-x

[โ€“] yuuunikki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Congratulations on your selfish apathy. You seem to care a lot about letting us know you don't care. congratulations

[โ€“] yuuunikki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah because it's funny to see people like you whine about it

[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You continue to demonstrate how much you don't care in a oh so cool way by continuing to reply.

people like you whine about it

Having an inhabitable planet is a good thing, even if you're too much of a selfish nihilistic passive-aggressive treat hog to acknowledge that.

[โ€“] yuuunikki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad you know how to Google big sounding words to sound smart to insult me with.

[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

How long are you going to keep replying to demonstrate how much you don't care?

Google big sounding words

No wonder you're an apathetic "AI" hog: you're telling on yourself. What word up there was so big for you that you think it required computer assistance?

[โ€“] yuuunikki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the fact i keep getting you to reply to me is pretty telling in itself

[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Bloviate all you want, Captain Apathy. I'm going to keep underlining how your "not caring" is getting more and more clownish as a claim because you keep caring enough to give your Reddity replies, hours later.

[โ€“] yuuunikki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You care so very little about announcing your very brave 9th grade style apathy that you're still going on about it.

Do you need last words? Seems like you care about those.