None of this matters, Russia won't be a country in 10-15 years anyway, between us supporting all their internal ethnic groups which will break away into their own "stans" and otherwise arming everyone who hates them, they'll be shattered just like in the 90s, and this time we'll keep them that way.

We should give Ukraine their nukes back just so they don't have to suffer through this period.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What does it tell you that they hate Russia so much (everyone does), that they’re happy to run to Russia’s worst enemy?

They didn't hate Russia. They voted to align with Russia as opposed to the IMF/WB deal with the west. But since Ukraine belongs to the west, they weren't allowed to have a democratic election. You should know about a subject before you spout off about it.

lol @ all the delusional genocidal dumb shit

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They had one, they elected zelensky.

It's not genocide, freeing all those poor, oppressed minorities under the Russian Empire.

It's liberation, the freedom they deserve.

You must be too young to remember when gorbechev offered Ukraine to stay in the new federation and they clearly said no.

Who in their right mind would voluntarily want to be Russian?

Most countries have something in their past to be proud of, Russia just has humiliation after humiliation after humiliation, all self_inflicted.

Or inflicted on others, like the holodomor or all the purges.

But seriously though, we owe them. They managed to unite the west with their invasion, they grew NATO and made Xi give up on taking Taiwan. Without their help we might have actually had to do something.

Russia as an enemy is the greatest ally anyone can have.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They had one, they elected zelensky.

They elected Yanukovych. Then the west performed a coup on them. Then the definition of "they" changed when you and your nazi friends started doing ethnic cleansing in the east against the people who made up the majority of that election. After that calling anything later an 'election' is trash.

You come off like a legit psycho.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah ok, this is just sad.

The only ethnic cleansing Ukraine did was clearing all the Russian scrap trash from the Black Sea.

Not that it needed much help, the Russian navy is famous for turning their cruisers into submarines and their submarines into permanent submarines themselves.

The Ukrainians were always the intelligent ones in the Russian empire and later the Soviet Union, without them Russia can't keep lost of their tech going.

The west needs to move further though, Finland and Sweden simply isn't enough, we need to build up Georgia as well, and Armenia now that they've realized how useless an ally Russia is.

We let russia go too far for too long, it's finally time to end this nuisance so we can focus on problems that actually matter.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

okay well at least you're not presenting yourself as anything except a crazed nazi

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Says the one defending this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izium_mass_graves

No wait, I know, it's what they get for fighting back, like when a woman makes her husband beat her.

One holodomor isn't enough, the Russians deserve the chance to do another?

They never paid for the first, the Ukrainians should make them.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Russians who caused the Holodomor are dead.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

As are the czars who united Russia.