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[–] lud@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Microsoft didn't cause the "disaster" though.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

They just made the poor decisions that made CrowdStrike required in the first place.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It exists on OSX and Linux too, they just don't do the thing that took down Windows so they weren't impacted.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Existing and being necessary are two different things. Linux and MacOS are operating systems. Windows is an ad delivery system that masquerades as an operating system.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If Windows had better security and update practices, software like CrowdStrike wouldn’t be a necessity.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

If windows were absolutely perfect with no flaws whatsoever, CrowdStrike wouldn’t be a necessity. I agree with that.

Unfortunately we live in the real world and no OS is perfect so software like CrowdStrike exists on lots of operating systems.

Btw, Crowdstrike isn't necessary but it's very nice to have for companies. You don't need real time protection like that on a normal client you use at home.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Running security products in kernel mode is precisely what caused this disaster.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It needs that kind of access to fight advanced attacks. It would surprise me if similar EDR programs didn't have similar access on Linux systems, for example.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, you make a management API for security products that run in user space as root, you don't use kernel modules.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is that the way that EDR is implemented on Linux or are you guessing?

[–] progandy@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Currently, cloudstrike offers two methods for Linux: a kernel driver / module and a theoretically safer alternative using epbf (you could call that "kernel level scripting"). Ironically, they triggered a kernel bug using that second option. They did not test all kernels they listed as compatible or something like that.