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What about clicking a checkbox means I'm human? How does Cloudflare determine I'm human from that? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 3 months ago by Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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The simplicity of it is logic defying. It used to be that you had to find crosswalks or move puzzle pieces or type blurred letters and numbers, but NOW all the sudden I can just click a box and HEY!, I'm human?

That's hardly the Turing Test I'd expected.

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Shitty situation if you are used to using hotkeys and only use mouse cursor when no other means are available by moving it using numpad.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 45 points 3 months ago

If it's in doubt it just gives you extra challenges. So in the end everybody will get there, or not and then fuck you I guess.

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah that's different as well. What they are filtering out is

a mouse teleporting to the exact center of the checkbox
a mouse smoothly gliding in a straight line to the center if the checkbook
a mouse traveling in a straight line to the center of the checkbook with some momentary stutters to add noise

Et cetera. Humans are much noiser than anything a python script will spit out. Of course there are ways to get around this, like recording and reenacting a human mouse movement, but the point of any capcha system is to make it significantly more difficult to bot, not impossible.

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No OP was right. If the reCaptcha is on the same page as a login, and I use my password manager to fill the fields, I fail the reCaptcha almost every time. I have to manually paste in the user name and password separately to slow things down to act more human...

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This never happens to me, I always instantly autofill with my password manager.

[–] Kyouki@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Some sites fail, have noticed this as well.

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I hate to bring this up to you, but you seem to be losing your humanity as we speak.

[–] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, never thought about this before, but how do blind users deal with captchas?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

There are audio captchas.

[–] s3p5r@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Some provide screen-reader instructions, but most places barely remember blind people exist. It's another example of people with disabilities being ignored and marginalised.

And then even if they do remember blind people exist, they probably forget there are people who aren't blind who can't do their tests for other reasons, like dyslexia or dexterity impairments.

And then you have hCaptcha who makes disabled people to sign up to their database to use their cookie.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

Normally there are audio captchas