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[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Passkey is resistant to these attacks, but user adoption is not widespread enough for Discord to be able to mandate it.

[–] _Atlas_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wtf, if it's such a huge security bonus, why wait for user adoption, especially if token stealing is an issue?

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Change is hard. It has been a long road to get where we are today: major OS and Browser vendor support. Users now need to change their behavior.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is wrong with good ol’ TOTP & FIDO2?

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Based on FIDO Alliance and W3C standards, passkeys replace passwords with cryptographic key pairs. These key pairs profoundly improve security. -- https://developer.apple.com/passkeys/

Based on FIDO2/WebAuthn but unlike them, passkeys are those things Apple & Google have been pushing that live on their servers + one specific device in its secure enclave you as as a user aren’t allowed to look into. FIDO2 is usually tied to some USB security token.

[–] gibson@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you can still use a yubikey or even a password manager like keepassxc with passkeys, no need for any google/apple or even secure enclave.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

These passkeys want to be unique per site/services & many hardware tokens only have a handful of slots for storage which means such dedicated don’t really work & storing them on say your laptop with your other passwords probably isn’t ideal with Keypass. Many security experts don’t see the advantage over a good hardware token + unique password. Like Big Tech trying to reinvent XMPP with RCS, I feel they are trying to do the same with passkeys so they benefit them.