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Effectiveness of hi-vis in car traffic (slrpnk.net)

submitted 2 months ago by toaster@slrpnk.net to c/fuckcars@lemmy.ca

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Seems like a relatively low number of deaths caused by motorcycles though, so it seems like death by cars/light trucks should be our main focus.

Like, very few people die from eating 97 XL pepperoni pizzas, robbing the Eiffel Tower, and then swimming across the Atlantic to Boston to escape...

But that's because very few people are stupid enough to try. It doesn't mean it's safer than taking a shit, even tho lots of people die while taking a shit.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but you generally try to tackle the biggest problem first. If you completely solve motorcycle deaths vs reduce car and truck deaths by 10%, which saves more lives?

[+] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On a person by person basis convincing them to do the safe thing voluntarily? What you personally can accomplish?

Your time is best spent convincing motorcycle riders to stop riding motorcycles. I struggle why you'd choose not to worry about the vehicle that is more dangerous to it's own riders and pedestrians (especially children) on a per mile basis.

As far as chances of passing meaningful laws? Good luck with cars, but motorcycles you have a chance of passing safety regulations because everyone knows they're death traps.

That's the key part, not how large the issue is. How easily it can be fixed.

Like, if I shit on your front porch every morning, and everytime you mentioned it I screamed about the polar ice caps are melting...

Would you agree that climate change is bigger issue than shit on your doorstep every morning and just let me poop in peace?

Or would you try to solve the easier problem first? And get me to stop pooping on your doorstep because as an individual you do not have the power or I fluence to fix climate change on your own?

Don't let big issues stop you from doing what you can. Don't let people shit on your doorstop dawg.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Do you really think making people not ride motorcycles is easier than getting people to stop texting and driving?

I don't know anyone who rides motorcycles. I bet I know a lot of people who drive distracted. So, if I were to personally start trying to convince people, is it really worth it to try to track down people who ride motorcycles? So, to me, distracted driving is definitely the pooping on my doorstep as far as the close to home and easy to do something about it is concerned. I bet my situation is pretty common.