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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck finding usable publich transport in 99% of the US.

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Blame zoning that makes building anything but single family houses illegal. With such sparse density you can't have public transit that is affordable and frequent. It is time to transform those money-sucking suburbs into walkable mixed-use medium density neighborhoods.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you can't have public transit that is affordable.

Total cost of a bus is ~$122 USD/hour ($165 CAD)

A car costs $729 USD / $988 per month on average and is used 380 hours per year on average. Therefore $23 USD / $31.2 CAD per hour (no driver cost, unlike the bus).

Therefore bus costs the same to run as 5 cars. We can't afford to not have public transit.

Edit: the bus data is in USD, the car data is in CAD. I missed this and originally wrote 4 cars had the same running cost as a bus instead of 5.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

The trick is state level zoning reform. NIMBY's death grip doesn't work above the local level