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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

Oh yes all those soldiers from, (checks notes), fighting the Nazis and Japanese.

Yeah them. Horrible people, the absolute worst amiright?

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

This incident was with the parents of people in section 60 specifically for people dying post 9-11 "War on terror" soldiers in other words. Stop obfuscating.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Oh okay the ones who got rid of Saddam and helped Iraq hold free and fair elections?

Those guys?

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh you are an Iraq war defender I'm not going to bother getting into an argument with you it's not worth it to argue with someone literally defending the Iraq war as bringing "Democracy" to Iraq with all the current information freely available about the true motives and the lists of war crimes.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey you're talking about the soldiers. The guys who actually went over there. If you want to talk about Bush then talk about Bush. And the "list of war crimes" is just that, a list with a fraction of the people who served in Iraq.

And yeah I'm going to talk about bringing democracy back to Iraq. Because that's exactly what happened. Are you going to try and tell us they weren't the first free and fair elections since Saddam seized power?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let me guess, you were there and killed a bunch of people, and this is what you have to tell yourself in order to make it day to day.

That sucks. But if you're going to post publicly defending the Iraq War, then you better be ready for criticism.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was there. And yeah Bush lied his ass off and got 4,000 of my friends killed. I'm incredibly bitter about that. But we also took Saddam out of power, and brought democracy back to Iraq. We were halfway through our peacekeeping period objectives when Bremer released his orders that gave life to the Iraqi insurgency and let AQ get a purchase in the country. But then we allied with those local militias to repair that situation too. And when ISIS reared it's head we again supported Iraqi militias in their fight to secure their country.

It's a far more complex situation than previous wars were. But the military did it's best to actually stabilize the country, support the leadership the Iraqis voted for, and get out of the way as fast as possible. We just had to fight the white house the entire way because Cheney and friends were making billions of dollars on the services contracts for us being there.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We may have made the best of the situation when we were there, and obviously I don't blame you for the evil decisions of the Bush administration, but I don't know if anyone can justify going there in the first place.

Afghanistan? Ok sure. Maybe. Iraq? Nah

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah but remember we're talking about the soldiers buried in section 60. Not the white house staff. So I think the distinction here is fair.

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