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I tried rclone and it freaked out at regular ping intervals and instead deleted everything on the drive. GG. I want to like you Proton but your decisions of late are ASTHENATE. I wouldn't have minded the crypto wallet release if basic features on the core apps were remotely coherently finished. The AI writer add on for a local model doesn't even work on Firefox. For people supposedly embracing the FOSStyle, this isn't the way. /rant

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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The did explain in a blog post that AI integration was one of the higher requested features. And with an electron client, it's easy to roll out to all platforms.

A drive client for Linux would need to be specifically developed and could not be reused for other platforms.

But yes, I would love a Drive client for Linux. I've recently started moving to Proton and can't make use of Drive without it.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Linux-compatible requests are literally some of the top 5 requests across all apps.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes but for 6% of the userbase. It's frustrating but I can understand them prioritizing other features.

[–] apples_and_pears@mastodon.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It was in my head from somewhere, so I went back trying to find out where. I think the number probably comes from this article, in which for VPN users, 6% asked for better Linux support.

They mention Linux in other sections(e.g. Drive) but only as part of the "Other" category and they don't quantify it.

However, the smallest category separately listed for Proton Drive has 8% of the vote, so it's definitely less than that, and it would make sense for it to be around 6% like the VPN one.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago

6% asked for better Linux support.

I didn't read the article, but is that 6% of users, or 6% of requests?

If it is the former, you also have to factor in the amount of people didn't request anything at all. If 25% of people requested something, then 6% of all people is actually quite a large portion of requests.

Although Linux users would probably be more likely to be asking for support, so still a vocal minority

[–] apples_and_pears@mastodon.world 2 points 2 months ago

@Dave Thank you. I agree with you 6% is a small percentage. The problem is Linux users don't mind swimming upstream. They dropped M$ (not acceptable in today's business climate of conform or die). They're vocal.

There are other solutions to the problem. Proton is aware of these complications, yet they persist in refusing to make a Linux client for Proton Drive. Worst, they won't say why. The Linux community is watching and searching for a solution...not silence.

[–] apples_and_pears@mastodon.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@Dave @fossilesque Are there (secure) alternatives to a Proton provided Drive application on Linux?

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only Linux application I know of for Proton Drive is the Rclone proton drive backend. I haven't used it, it apparently works but is in beta. I would make sure you have other backups though, just in case.

[–] dazo@infosec.exchange 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@Dave @apples_and_pears

I've used Rclone with Proton Drive to mount a directory .... it is dreadfully slow. Maybe directory/file sync (where copies are both places) are better.

I cannot recommend Rclone for Proton Drive in "mount mode" currently.

@protonprivacy This is why I'm still using Tresorit on Linux .... One of two reasons (the other one is access to shared folders with read/write access).

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have never seen a cloud location mounted and usable. Definitely want to do a proper sync where files are stored locally!

[–] dazo@infosec.exchange 1 points 2 months ago

@Dave It actually works quite nicely with Tresorit. And the latency lag is acceptable.

I've been doing this via Rclone + Jotta Cloud with Rclone encryption, which still works better than Rclone + Proton Drive. But not as smooth as Tresorit. Rclone + Backblaze B2 + encryption is also better than the Proton Drive approach.

I've also used this approach in read-only mode with @borgmatic too, which is a great way to restore data from a backup. And that's almost as smooth as Tresorit (even though a very different use case).