I don't disagree, but I think the attitude comes from exhaustion at the Democrats spending 50 years meeting Republicans in the middle and telling more left leaning groups that their desires aren't as important or that they're at fault for Democrats losing because they scared off some mythical right leaning centrist who would have otherwise voted for the Democrats.

Plus, I'm not convinced that a large part of the not voting bloc that you hear online isn't actually just a disenfranchisement campaign.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree on the not-voting bloc - I'd also add that the zealotry I've seen, the black and white thinking... All of it reminds me more of religious fundamentalist groups than it does of the progressives I know.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Keep in mind that from state to state the amount of people who would be able to vote but have been restricted ranges from near 0% to 8%.

The three worst states are Alabama, Tennessee, and Mississippi.

It obviously doesnt account for all of the non voters but its still substantial.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In this case when we're talking about "non-voter" it's about the uncommitted movement, not about the deliberately disenfranchised.

The Republican party is thrilled with the uncommitted movement and has done as much as possible to push for their success.

It's not that I disagree with the uncommitted movement in principle: I hope that their push brings about real change. They are useful to the Republican party nonetheless, and if key battleground states like Michigan are lost because of them it will be a major blow to any hope of incremental change.

The Democratic party has to be the big tent party because the Republicans are the party of narrow minded bigotry. That does mean that there will always be leftists dissatisfied with the DNC.

When that dissatisfaction leads to "cutting off your own nose to spite your face" behavior is when the leftist purity culture becomes a problem.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Well we do have to respect peoples vote no matter how they use it. Its possible for a small percentage their life won't change no matter who wins, so why not vote for your favorite candidate?

I do think a majority of the uncommitted voter base from last election is no longer uncommitted because Trump is bad for more groups of people this time around.

I just don't think its razor thin enough that people are no longer free to vote their preference. In my opinion trump won't come close to winning.