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[โ€“] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Do you think western governments realize that there is a slowly growing disillusionment with democracy in their populations and that their increasingly erratic bullshit is feeding it?

[โ€“] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

As long as the politics in the crisis go right they'll be fine; it's just another round of primitive accumulation

[โ€“] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

I think they do, they just don't care. Why would they? They have offshores and backup houses and shit. Even in case of public unrest, it will most likely be anti-socialist, so the bourgeoisie will remain in power, even if some talking heads change

[โ€“] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, they are meant to be punished for it at the next election. The problem is the media makes everything a big scandal when not all of it is.

In this case he's subverting the will of the people, so he should be destroyed at the ballot. However the division and rise of the far right means it could short that way too. Those who shifted left last time might shift back having shown their discontent.

He's saying he doesn't want Parliament to have a no confidence vote, bit if there is non stable government as voted, that's what is supposed to happen. Then return for election again.

[โ€“] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Those who shifted left last time might shift back having shown their discontent.

That's why he's doing it. He's hoping that voters become so disillusioned with the left at their inability to do anything due to macron blocking them that they'll vote moderate or right there next time around.

He's right and time is on his side; he simply needs to run out the clock

[โ€“] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All the media I've seen blames Macron, not the left. So it could backfire. Just like his snap election did.

[โ€“] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Progressive politics requires a window of opportunity between when things are so bad that people fall through the cracks and things being good enough to pretend that there are no cracks.

All macron has to do is wait and he will be justified in his machinations to disenfranchise the left and embrace the right

[โ€“] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

the disillusion isnt with democracy its with capitalism and capitalist being allowed to buy all the politicians.