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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

Yeah this is the exact type of bullshit I was talking about.

Australia had a very strong gun culture as well. Then Port Arthur happened.

They had a voluntary buyback program and got back what would be the equivalent of about 12 million guns with the current US population.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/opinion/australia-banned-assault-weapons-america-can-too.html

Like I said and I'll keep saying, people opposing gun control have literally nothing but wanna-be-gotcha shitty indirect NRA propaganda. Of which "no but it wouldn't work here in the country which is the only country which can't seem to figure out gun control, because it doesn't try it, because our country has people who like guns and I'm sure no-one else ever has".

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Yeah I don't buy it.

Gun buybacks here have been tried probably thousands of times, on smaller scales than at a federal level. They don't work. They get a few shitty actual guns and there's even memes around people making zip guns for $5 and turning them in to collect whatever money is offered.

What would undeniably happen is that much of the left here would turn in some of their guns and the vast majority of the right would snicker at the "libtards gibbin up dere freedums" while they buy more guns.

This isn't Australia, though that sounds like a wonderful place to live.

Also lol @ a 12 million gun "equivalency" when the US has like 320 million people and even more guns.

Let's math:

Assuming only 1 gun per person, which is laughably low,

12m/320m = 0.0375 or 3.75% of guns

Congrats you've collected nearly 4% of the problem from people who were not the problem. Were they the problem, they'd have kept their guns.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (12 children)

They don’t work.

Your local small time buybacks don't work.

Science shows us that when implemented on a national level, it's not hard to incentivise it properly.

Just like I said, you never ever have any science, just pathetic "no no no I don't buy that no no no no".

Come back when you have even the tiniest bit of some science to show. But you won't. You'll reply instantly, but without any science, adamantly stomping your foot on the floor about how "murica so special even science doesn't wurk"

https://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.full.pdf+html .

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/

You probably won't even open those links, because you've decided you won't accept science on the matter. You just like bang-bang-sticks and don't care for other people, so... fuck science.

Come back with peer reviewed science, or sit down and shut up.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There's a way to discuss a topic without name calling, pretending you know someone you've never met, putting words into someones mouth, or trying to belittle the other person. If you want people to listen to you and read your links (which I just opened and will be reading, thanks) maybe try not being a dick.

Until you can do that. Sit down and shut up.

ETA: I'll be replying with science once I've read your articles.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

No, you won't be "replying with science", as you have none, hun. You might as well be fetching me science on how the Earth is flat.

It is beyond moronic to claim gun control doesn't work.

Oh I'm perfectly capable of having a respectful conversation with people — when they deserve it.

I notice you're trying to get your little tushy off the seat, but still haven't got any science. And never will.

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