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How can pointing out violent supression and the killing of peaceful demonstrators possibly not be informative?
It's not peaceful when PLAs were burnt/killed.
https://archive.ph/CGlJ3
While I haven't looked into the two others, on one of the people burnt, Liu Guogeng, it seems important details were excluded:
From Louisa Lim - The People's Republic of Amnesia, p. 17, just started reading this. It seems curious to me that the sources I have been given are really just repeating the justifications used by the state.
You also completely ignore how when troops were initially sent into stop the protests, the protestors blocked them for days, chatted with and fed, finally forcing the troops to return peacefully. It is the chinese state that began the violent supression of the protests afterwards.
And as I have commented elsewhere, random blogs and Reddit posts are useless sources to learn history from.
Here's the more formal source
https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/tiananmenreadinglist
Some more context:
Footage from a documentary titled The Gate of Heavenly Peace shows an interview between Chai Ling (student leader in the Tianamen Square Incident) and reporter Philip Cunningham a week prior to the protest.
In the footage, Chai makes the following statements:
Chai Ling: All along I've kept it to myself, because being Chinese I felt I shouldn't bad-mouth the Chinese. But I can't help thinking sometimes – and I might as well say it – you, the Chinese, you are not worth my struggle! You are not worth my sacrifice! What we (the protestors) actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people.
Cunningham: "Are you going to stay in the Square yourself?
Chai Ling: "No."
Cunningham: "Why?"
Chai Ling: "Because my situation is different. I want to live. Anyway, that's how I feel about it. I don't know if people will say I'm selfish. I believe that people have to continue the work I have started. A democracy movement can't succeed with only one person. I hope you don't report what I've just said for the time being, okay?"
The footage has been verified by third-party media specialists as genuine, and is readily available online.
Chai Ling, or the biggest hypocritical scumbag ever.