Yeah, the person above you seems to be ignoring the fact that them breaching their air space for the first time is an escalation, not to mention China has generally been escalating it's rhetoric recently.

It could be argued that China is feeling pressured to escalate (due to external events or US escalating trade/policy stances), but threatening a missile system is more signaling "keep this up and we'll respond".

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the person above you seems to be ignoring the fact that them breaching their air space for the first time is an escalation, not to mention China has generally been escalating it's rhetoric recently.

Surely this makes offensive missiles designed for nukes a proportional response to a plane with no weapons briefly dipping a toe into Japanese airspace over ocean on one of its several circles.

I haven't ignored anything, I'm just aware of how absurd this is. No one saying this is a reasonable response can claim to care about escalation.

It could be argued that China is feeling pressured to escalate (due to external events or US escalating trade/policy stances), but threatening a missile system is more signaling "keep this up and we'll respond".

By nuking them?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just because a weapons platform is capable of using nuclear warheads doesn't mean we are going to hand said warheads over. The system has plenty of conventional warheads. Deployment of a weapons system as a deterrent is proportional.

You're spreading Chinese lies.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just because a weapons platform is capable of using nuclear warheads doesn't mean we are going to hand said warheads over. The system has plenty of conventional warheads.

The weapons system was prohibited specifically because of its use with nuclear weapons. This is its distinguishing feature. This is the "message" being sent, though it also isn't just a message because it is an actual offensive weapon.

Deployment of a weapons system as a deterrent is proportional.

It is obviously not.

You're spreading Chinese lies.

I am? Which ones? Are Chinese lies a special kind?

Sounds to me like you are flirting with xenophobia.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In the context of this particular discussion, China = The CCP ≠ The Chinese people.

As far as which one are lies? Your entire post history is nothing but Chinese propaganda and lies.

It's not xenophobic to call out CCP bullshit like the shit you are spouting. That's called being a good human.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the context of this particular discussion, China = The CCP ≠ The Chinese people.

I dunno, I think Chinese means Chinese. It sounds like you just throw this around as an epithet and it is sinophobic. Please do some reflection on whether you are okay with xenophobia.

As far as which one are lies? Your entire post history is nothing but Chinese propaganda and lies.

Name one from this comment chain.

It's not xenophobic to call out CCP bullshit like the shit you are spouting.

Such as?

That's called being a good human.

I don't think it's good human behavior to use xenophobic rhetoric.