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[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 5 points 5 days ago (13 children)

Great argument. What do you base this on?

It's like china calling itself communist right now.

Yes there was rhetoric in the USSR that suggested they were but it was an instrument to legitimate the horrible things that they did to their people.

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society

A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access[1][2] to the articles of consumption and is classless, stateless, and moneyless,[3][4][5][6] implying the end of the exploitation of labour.[7][8]

That was not the case. It was state owned, as the transition from whatever system was there before to socialism plans. Communism is supposed to be something different.

I am not arguing that it would be good or better than anything we have today but am saying that we never saw communism in the modern world.

Change my mind with arguments and not down votes.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (5 children)

China doesn't call itself communist. It's Socialist with Chinese characteristics.

[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago (4 children)

You are right, I mixed something up

Same argument though for socialism. They are a capitalist country that calls itself something else. You don't seriously believe they are socialist In any other way than their name.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They're socialist in who runs the country and how they run it

I don't think a reasonable person can watch the difference in how they handled covid compared to truly capitalist countries and come away with this confusion. The capitalist class is not dominant in China.

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