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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago (18 children)

Why are you saying that LLMs are useless when they're useless only most of the time

I'm sorry but I've been circling my room for an hour now seeing this and I need to share it with people lest I go insane.

[–] rook@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Valsorda was on mastodon for a bit (in ‘22 maybe?) and was quite keen on it , but left after a bunch of people got really pissy at him over one of his projects. I can’t actually recall what it even was, but his argument was that people posted stuff publicly on mastodon, so he should be able to do what he liked with those posts even if they asked him not to. I can see why he might not have a problem with LLMs.

Anyone remember what he was actually doing? Text search or network tracing or something else?

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

oh! was he the guy doing a search engine archiving as much of the fediverse as possible, over the objections of the people being indexed?

yeah that tracks

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So many techbros have decided to scrape the fediverse that they all blur together now... I was able to dig up this:

"I hear I’m supposed to experiment with tech not people, and must not use data for unintended purposes without explicit consent. That all sounds great. But what does it mean?" He whined.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah, that's the fucker. as a large language model, he does not have a data type for consent

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

I always wondered why he was at google for so long, and cut a teeny bit of hypothetical slack in light of "hmm maybe it gave a significantly better life than what he could in italy" (which honestly I can understand as a drive, if not necessarily agree with)

that slack's gone now

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