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[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'd go with healthcare but either way US gets its ass handed to it. Possibly literally in the case of healthcare.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Or housing. Or food insecurity and malnutrition. Or education. Or the treatment of its ethnic minorities. The US is honestly just a shit-tier country, it fits in among its imitators, Nazi Germany and Instreal.

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Yep. It is almost impossible to exist peacefully here unless you make at least twice as much as the average working person and happen to be born white.

[–] Zpiritual@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, it is in the third world so what would one expect?

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"Third world" is Cold War framing, pitting the capitalist U.S. and allied countries (first world) against the USSR and allied countries (second world). The Third World referred to nonaligned Global South countries, which tended to be too crushed by the ongoing first world colonialism.

Denigrating the U.S. with implicit denigration to colonized countries based on its own colonialism feels a little off to us.

[–] Zpiritual@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's a silly joke where from a sino-roman perspective africa was the second continent/world "discovered" and that means the third world would be the next one, which is America.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago

from a Sino-Roman perspective africa was the second continent/world “discovered”

Is that even the case, though? Certainly not for the Romans (to whom Africa may as well have been next door, whose early rivals were the Carthaginians, and whose writing system ultimately originated from the much more ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs).

And the Chinese trade contacts with Africa, while originally indirect, were such that Africa was not exactly unknown to them (and Zheng He's voyages were more about establishing direct contact/etc). Distant and mysterious, maybe (like how Rome and China saw each other for most of history) but not "undiscovered" by any means, and with continuous and ancient trade routes.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Could you provide a source for that claim?

SadArtemis already expanded on this well. Certainly Greco-Roman societies were well aware of Africa, even if not the extent of it. You might find Wikipedia's early world maps page a good starting point.

[–] miz@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

death to america
death to capitalism

[–] ahriboy@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 month ago

And down with the NATO shit

[–] sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

I would not be surprised that USA is now struglling since they depleted their reserves of child slaves and human experimental subjects in the Indian Boarding fake schools that secretly continued after 1997. They also depleted their source of inheritance thief in the fake cultural assimilation against abducted Indigenous children in the largest human trafficking in history. Do you seriously think that Pax Americana could still continue its prosperity despite its extremely large investment in foreign anti-terrorist terrorism, hypocritical government intervention against the invisible hand of the market who is smuggling scary red mastermind from the cold war propaganda into key positions of Pax Americana to babysit the lazy Capitalists, wasteful management of resource that creates cost of living, or the corruption from plutocracy with the deunked trickle down theory?