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On the one hand, science yadda yadda knowledge for all mankind etc.
On the other hand, failure and humiliation to Russia.
I'm actually a big fan of space exploration and of the exploration and exploitation of the Moon in particular, but under the current circumstances I'm not terribly saddened on the balance.
It sounds like you don't care that much about science if you're actually considering national humiliation to be as important as scientific progress.
Actually a little bit of humiliation goes a long way towards diligence when conducting expensive space experiments. Russia used to be the leaders in these fields. The world used to rely on Soviet vehicles for launch. They deserve to be held at a higher standard.
I care very much about science. However, it's not the only thing I care about, and thwarting Russia's endeavours are also right up there. Real lives are at stake as opposed to hypothetical and abstract scientific returns. If Russia's humiliation causes Putin's regime to collapse quicker then I care about that very much indeed.
How much science was really going to come out of this lander, in the grand scheme of things? Why can't that science wait?
Well said, the guy you are talking to is a putin lover btw