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Elon Musk destroys astronomy (www.astron.nl)
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Observations with the LOFAR (Low Frequency Array) radio telescope last year showed that first generation Starlink satellites emit unintended radio waves that can hinder astronomical observations. New observations with the LOFAR radio telescope, the biggest radio telescope on Earth observing at low frequencies, have shown that the second generation ’V2-mini’ Starlink satellites emit up to 32 times brighter unintended radio waves than satellites from the previous generation, potentially blinding radio telescopes and crippling vital research of the Universe.

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[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And consequently create radio chatter and disturb the Lunar Crater Telescope :(

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’ll be very quiet. Promise.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

How are you going to shit post on the internet with no wifi, then? 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz are loud af

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ethernet cable.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Where is that ethernet cable getting internet from on the moon without there being a loud as fuck antenna?

[–] lath@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The ether.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So then you won't be able to be quiet due to the screaming and moans coming from the cacaphony of lost souls within the Warp

[–] lath@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Eh, just treat it as ASMR.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

802.3

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ethernet protocol can't reach the earth from the moon without there being a loud af antenna on either side

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fiber line to the bright side of the moon; transceiver there.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For multi-mode (full duplex) you would still need a power amp repeater every 500 meters, which requires a lot of power and create noise. You can't be quiet with noise.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even if you make them sub-surface, or otherwise shield them from the FOV of the antenna?

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, because there's no way to transmit power or data anywhere without being loud af in any signal spectrum. It's physically impossible.

Even with fiber, you need a laser to beam the signal, and a powerful amp on the moon to recieve the signal and boost it with fuck ton of high power repeaters to the other side of the moon which is also loud af

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Be that as it may, it’d be minimal compared to the interference that terrestrial radio observatories have to deal with.

I guess I’m just saying that I don’t understand why you’re being so negative about the concept when it’s clearly going to be orders of magnitude better than existing antennae.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True. When can we visit said hypothetical moon base?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Wanna go next Tuesday? I’m pretty sure I’m free then.