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I had basically given up on electoralism for years at this point.
I do not believe the western working class by and large has any revolutionary potential, basically JDPON-pilled.

But the genocide in Palestine really made me more invested in this whole dog and pony show again.
I guess I figured like…sure bourgeoise democracy will not bring about socialism, but at the very least you can still get some concessions potentially out of it.
Perhaps I was naive, but like…I wanted to hope there was some way the Democrats could be convinced to stop it by November, even if it was electoralist bullshit I feel like the Palestinians deserved (and still deserve) even a futile attempt.

But seeing the shit with the DSA, especially the SMC and Groundwork caucuses, seeing unions who oppose the genocide endorse Biden/Harris right out the gate, seeing the Uncommitted movement do the same while the Harris campaign has done nothing but spit in their face….

I am filled with a helpless rage. Americans are the most pathetic contemptible creatures on this earth.

I’M NOT EVEN ASKING FOR SOCIALISM! ALL I’M ASKING FOR IS THE DEMOCRATS TO COME AROUND ON AN ISSUE 77% OF DEMOCRATS AND 61% OF AMERICANS OPPOSE!
BUT EVEN THAT IS TOO MUCH, TOO HARD FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO FIGHT FOR EVEN WHEN IT IS ALLEDGELY THEIR WHOLE REASON FOR EXISTING!!

I knew Americans were useless and selfish, and short-sighted and stupid…but I didn’t think they were to this extent.
That was my mistake I guess.

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[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, in America we can't within the current system. Reform or revolution? (Revolution)

[–] drone509@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If there was a third party, I honestly think there'd be a chance to make things better. Either to force reform by pulling votes from the bigger party, or being a vanguard for revolution. Just not the fucking green party, jesus. They didn't win a single county in 2016, and I fucking hate them.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

and I fucking hate them

You should reexamine why you're directing statements like "I fucking hate them" to the green party instead of the party currently in charge of enabling the genocide in Gaza

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

So you hate the greens more than the genocidal Democrats?