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this is a repost from my old reddit post on r/fuckcars

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[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heck, even free-market capitalists have a good reason to hate cars: parking minimums, exclusionary zoning, and other government policies that prop up, mandate, and subsidize car dependence are massive barriers to the invisible hand doing what it wishes. If we didn't have those in place, I think the invisible hand would be building us a significantly less car-dependent world than we currently live in.

That's how you know you've likely stumbled upon something good: when wildly different ideologies (maintaining ideological consistency) converge upon the same conclusion. Of course, the matter of ideological consistency (or lack thereof) is exactly how we get self-described libertarians defending restrictive zoning and parking minimums.

[–] Skeith@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the angle I come at the issue from. Prohibitive zoning and perverse incentives for car use are skewing what the market would otherwise provide.

One of the few issues where free market liberals 🤝 socialists 🤝 libertarians