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    I save this meme a while ago, I think it is from Reddit

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    [–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've been in discussions regarding anti-cheats, and there's definitely an audience who outright complains if a game does not have anti-cheats.

    The arguments usually being willing to deal with the risks, because they don't see a way to make games fair without it.

    [–] Zozano@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I definitely get it. Have you seen the state of Team Fortress 2 for the past few years? It's repugnant. I don't know how people are still playing it.

    Free to play multiplayer games are at the highest risk of cheaters, since they can just make a new account. I would rather pay for a multiplayer game without microtransactions than a free one which gatekeeps and facilitates cheaters.

    [–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    League of Legends is fine and it runs via wine. Whatever they are doing seems to work. I won't believe for a second that you absolutely need kernel level malware for Valorant. Not that I care about shooters.

    [–] Schmeckinger@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

    LoL has a very simple way of only giving you information you need. The problem is shooters are way more complicsted that way. I play a game that tries this, but it leads to a lot of pop ins, where someone is invisible, even tho you should clearly see him.

    [–] alcasa@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    What do you propose to make games fair without cheating countermeasures?

    [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    overwatch (cs /dota2, not the blizzard game) system is probably the best.

    also the best way to avoid cheaters is not to play multi-player games, they are mostly toxic as fuck anyway, who needs that in their life