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[–] zecg@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a win for humanity if it causes more people to leave and stop thinking it's a public forum.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It IS a public forum though. The whole point of it, even dating back to it's inception, was very very public conversation. It was in stark contrast to facebook, which claimed to be privacy driven. As opposed to the mostly public myspace, and the completely public twitter.

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Since Musk took it, it’s more like an arena where the loudest and dumbest have the microphones. It is neither a haven for free speech nor a forum where legitimate discourse takes place. It has become the trash pit of the internet.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not what was said though. I was saying that it was a PUBLIC forum. I'm not stating WHAT is being said. Merely that it's being said in a public way.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think I would agree that just because something is public that it's a public forum. I feel like the public has to own it as well. I looked it up and maybe it's because I predate social media by rather a lot, but I think of it in the classical sense:

Public forums are typically categorized into three types:

  1. Traditional Public Forums: Long-established spaces like parks or sidewalks, where people have historically exercised their rights to free speech and assembly.
  2. Designated Public Forums: Areas that the government intentionally opens up for public expression, such as town halls or school meeting rooms.
  3. Limited Public Forums: Spaces opened for specific types of discussions or activities but with certain restrictions on the subject matter or participants.

The important factor being public ownership of the forum. I will concede that it has colloquially come to include public social media, but I think it's important to distinguish that it's not really the same thing at all as has been discussed through most of our history.

Food for thought. I just think calling them public forums attaches too much importance to a profit seeking endeavor.

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Exactly. You were much more articulate than I, with my comparison, but it was effectively the point I was trying to make — it’s not a public forum at all and it’s now overrun by a cesspool of nonsensical garbage.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

City council meetings are public meetings. But if you go in there and start swearing your head off and using the N-word you will be removed because you are distupting the ability of rational people to have a discussion.

Twitter has decided to let these freaks scream their heads off. This disrupting its ability to be used as a public forum. It is no longer a public forum. It’s just 4Chan now. Sane people wanting to have discussions don’t use 4Chan.