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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Climate change cannot be sufficiently addressed without oveethrowing capitalism. China built more solar capacity last year than the entirety of American installations and both American candidates support fracking.

Join a local socialist org!

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Lol they also built more coal plants than the rest of the world combined in 2023

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-than-other-countries-report-fin

I swear you tankies are a hilariously ignorant bunch.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

China did not start industrialization until 1949. Climate Change effects have been known since 1896 or 1824 depending on how you look at it. China literally did not start the fire 🔥

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Lol China didn't start the fire, but they're literally pouring gas on it.... it's those damn western capitalist faults.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Yes, they are rapidly developing and increasing percentages of their overall power comes from renewables, especially Solar, which they have invested tons of money into R&D to make scaling that economical.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You seem to have misunderstood what I wrote. I said they installed more solar power than the US's entire history, not a single year.

China is fulfilling its internationally-agreed climate commitments while the major imperialist countries do not.

You should find a more sustainable way to fulfill whatever drive makes you seek out this level of pointless smugness and guesswork gotchas.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/chinas-coal-country-full-steam-ahead-with-new-power-plants-despite-climate-2023-11-30/

The fuck are you talking about, they get 70% of their power from coal, they built 6 new plants in 2023. What the hell makes you think they're going to fullfil their agreements?

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It sounds like you have made no attempt whatsoever to understand. I will wait for you to tell me that you have spent five minutes looking for the relevant information. If you can't, just tell me you couldn't fins it and I will gladly show you.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What type of response is that...if you have proof from a factual source, then post it. Stop talking like you're some wise tankie jedi.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually this is a very low bar but you managed to not clear it. This has confirmed a simple fact: you are here to fight and have no interest in the truth or learning. Obviously this was implied from the prior bad faith responses, but now we have cut to the chase.

Why should I waste my time?

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol ok tankie, I provide links and sources and you provided tankie shit talking points.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you see how you must dodge and weave to avoid addressing what I say? And now namecalling. Just accidentally reconfirming everything I said.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Sure thing kid.

[–] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Do you think you have fairly characterized my comment?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, they have a Dictatorship of the Proletariat that carefully manages and plans a market economy in a transitional socialist state.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah the proletariat are making the decisions in China. They're a dictatorship of Xi.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I love well managed ghost cities woah!

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Do you think that is a real thing?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Developing for the future, what a wild concept!

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I didn't say that. Wrong comment chain.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm a communist. You guys came to debate yourselves.