I have a Steam Deck and a PS5 that I will be replacing with the Pro when it ships. So to give you an answer: I'm not going to be plugging a Steam Deck into a 4k 65" OLED TV with VRR. Don't get me wrong, I love the Steam Deck, and I also enjoy PC gaming when mouse and keyboard makes sense, but sitting on the couch in font of a giant responsive display with amazing colors is by far how I enjoy gaming the most.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ok but why are you replacing the regular PS5 with the PS5 Pro?

[–] nxn@biglemmowski.win 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Because to me it is a worthwhile upgrade. If you compare the image quality in FF7 Rebirth specifically in the 60 FPS modes the differences are significant. The new ray tracing features in F1 2024 for the pro also made a big impact on how that game looks.

In general, I don't like gaming at 30 FPS and I've been noticing that developers don't always do a good job with their choices when dialing it back to get 60 FPS. For example, I'm holding off on buying Black Myth Wukong because their performance mode looks flawed right now, and I don't want to play it at 30 either.

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Quick question though, why not buy a PC and link it to the tv? The features you're talking about are also on the PC and you're not limited to their proprietary services and file formats.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not sure why people are beating up on @nxn@biglemmowski.win for saying his opinion. Different people value different things.

I think I can answer your question though. Buying a console is a plug and play experience. Building a PC is not. Not everyone has the time, the patience, or the technical experience required to purchase compatible components, assemble the machine, and install the various software.

Anyone that's ever bought a prepared meal has overpaid in comparison to acquiring the ingredients, prepping them, and cooking the dish. It's worth the price to do so because I sure as hell don't want to spend time making a bowl of French onion soup.

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I actually get that. Was just curious. My girlfriend uses a PS5 and loves it tons whilst I game on PC. Both totally understand each other haha

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't even imagine telling my child self playing Joust in the arcade about people like you...

[–] nxn@biglemmowski.win -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ok boomer

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm 47. You do know boomers would be adults by the time those sort of games were out, right?

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

60 fps is good enough to justify the upgrade? Could build a PC capable of well beyond that for not much more..

[–] nxn@biglemmowski.win 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, 30 FPS at best just makes my inputs feel laggy, but usually it also strains my eyes and has given me actual migraines. Bloodborne was the worst offender because of the need to focus on choppy animations of bosses.

I've already answered the PC build question, but to summarize: any comparable build to a PS 5 Pro that uses new components from brands that make reliable hardware typically cost over one grand USD. Also most people that I see recommend these builds typically don't even bother including peripherals like a controller and kb+m in the cost. Not to mention that by going into the budget gaming PC route will also generally require additional time to tinker with graphic settings in each game to try and get adequate performance.

Anyway, I've done this before, I had a higher end PC in my living room hooked up to my TV a few years ago. The experience wasn't terrible, but also wasn't as good as just having a console where everything is designed to be operated via controller. So honestly I don't see the point of paying extra money for something that seems like the worse option for me.

I'll be building a higher end gaming PC with a 480hz OLED display in mind next year, but yeah, I won't be using that from a couch.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 2 points 1 month ago

Gotcha. For sure the jump from 30fps to 60fps is a lot more significant than a jump from 60 to 120+

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can use a controller on PC and also connect to this display with the same responsiveness and colors. I always thought consoles were for the exclusive games and to play with friends, not performance or graphics.

[–] nxn@biglemmowski.win 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can use a controller on PC and also connect to this display with the same responsiveness and colors.

I've done this in the past when I had a desktop near my living room TV. I don't these days and the experience wasn't good enough to justify rearranging my house rather than simply buying a console.

Also, to get ahead of the people that are already twitching at the opportunity to inform me that I could build a dedicated PC just to keep next to my TV for gaming: Sure, but the cost of building one with similar performance to the pro, while using new components and avoiding Ali Express brands that may start a house fire one random evening, is over 1 grand at a minimum.

I always thought consoles were for the exclusive games and to play with friends, not performance or graphics.

Please, by all means, go email Sony and tell them to not bother with PS6. Tell Nintendo to drop what they're doing with the Switch 2. Us console gamers simply don't care about performance or graphic upgrades. Surely they should have learned this by now.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Makes sense, didn't mean to yuck your yum. Just seemed like your reasons were surmountable with cheaper alternatives and an additional system seemed to me like a large cost. But you want the console, and it seems a solution that better fits your wants/needs.