this post was submitted on 01 Oct 2024
170 points (100.0% liked)

Emulation

3532 readers
8 users here now

Community to talk about emulation & roms.

RULES:

1.) No bigotry

LINKS:

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
lnxprcy@lemmy.ml
170
Ryujinx Pulls Their Source Code From GitHub And Shuts Down (overkill.wtf)
submitted 1 month ago by Pirky@lemmy.world to c/emulation@lemmy.ml
44 comments fedilink hide all child comments
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It is legal to circumvent DRM in certain cases. Format shifting is one such case.

also iirc it doesnt cirvumvent the drm. it dumps the whole cart, including the drm itself.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is no way to access the dump without circumventing the switch itself's encryption, as you need to do it on a modified switch and as far as I know the exemptions provided for DMCA are for scenarios where it's effectively impossible or extremely difficult to use the software in a non infringing way, (other exemptions are generally quite specific) which could be argued for out of circulation consoles and games, but would not stand for an in production generally available console and it's games.

I've never heard of exemptions for format shifting exemption for circumventing copy protection. I've heard it argued in the case of things like ripping a CD that has no copy protection in place though.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You aren't "circumventing the switches encryption" whatever that means. You're putting it in debug mode. Not to mention it being illegal to softmod your own hardware is insane.

And the same format shifting exemption applies to blueray which does have DRM.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ok, first off, installing custom firmware on a switch involves a lot more than entering rcm, that's one step yes, but not the entire process. 'soft-modding' a release switch, uses a hardware exploit on tegra SOCs that allows the device to bypass (the encrypted) bootloader on the switch by way of injecting a custom payload in recovery (not debug) mode.

This isn't even an argument so I don't know you are saying this, it's settled in criminal and civil court, Doug Bowser went to jail for this exactly, specifically, conspiracy to circumvent, and trafficking circumvention tools.

Otherwise you should actually read the DMCA, I can't find any mention of format shifting broadly and exemptions provided are very specific.

I should add, it doesn't actually matter how good an attempt of DRM is for it to be illegal. The fact that Nintendo made a mistake in allowing the ability (through unintended use of the hardware) to enter rcm, does not magically make it legal. the DRM just needs to be a clear effort and intention.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's the reality of the world we live in.

Edit: can you actually provide any info on where you are getting that it's legal to crack blu ray encryption?