Once buoyed by hopes of liberating their lands, even soldiers at the front now voice a desire for negotiations with Russia to end the war. Yuriy, another commander on the eastern front who gave only his first name, says he fears the prospect of a “forever war”.

“I am for negotiations now,” he adds, expressing his concern that his son — also a soldier — could spend much of his life fighting and that his grandson might one day inherit an endless conflict.

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[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There it is.

You do realize that this thread is about Ukrainians who are expressing their desires for peace talks, right?

What about you, who are encouraging people to march to their deaths? How are you any better than a ‘tankie’ who wants peace negotiations?

You aren’t better. You’re worse. You want people to die for some patriotic pride you’re applying to them.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

What about you, who are encouraging people to march to their deaths?

I'm not. If they want to cut their losses and hope for the best, more power to them. If they don't, also more power to them. But don't go pretending negotiations with Russia are some magic solution that will solve everything. These people are forced to choose between attempting to fight off a seemingly unbeatable aggressor or submitting to said aggressor, and neither is particularly attractive.

You aren’t better. You’re worse. You want people to die for some patriotic pride you’re applying to them.

So first, reported for incivility. Second, I'm not American or European or whatever you thought I am just now. I don't have a horse in this race.