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[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Dangerous game considering Intel should be coming up with their 18A node pretty soon now, and it will supposedly be competitive with TSMC's 3nm or 2nm according to rumors. They will only need to compete in price, and if they are competitive in performance, and TSCM is increasing their prices so much, it would be a good way for Intel to take some of that market share.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago (18 children)

you have practical, working tsmc chips plus next-gen r&d versus theoretical chips from Intel, a company that has not fared well over 30 years of trying to catch up with TSMC.

they're not worried yet.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (10 children)

And with the issues intel had with their processors..

[–] tal 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It does sound like most of that was not actually manufacturing, but design.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you're referring to the 13&14th Gen chips then yes, Intel is saying it's on the software side.

But if you're talking about 10th Gen chips that took forever to get out of the gate due to issues with sub 14nm lithography, then no it's a hardware issue. Intel has had issues over recent years with actual die shrinks.

[–] tal 1 points 1 month ago

If you’re referring to the 13&14th Gen chips then yes, Intel is saying it’s on the software side.

Yes, I was, but there was also some initial manufacturing issue with oxidation. That wasn't the bulk of the issues that they were running into, though.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Regardless, it feels like what we see with Boeing. A company culture that prioritized marketing and time to market over everything else consequences be damned.

Move fast and break stuff is probably not the best strategy if you are building airplanes or processors or other PhD level stuff... Or maybe it's just never a good strategy.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah nice fast and break things is a great way to maximize short term profits at the expense of the long term. But fuck it, I got mine in the short term, so it works.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Intel blew their RD spending on share buy bucks... Now we giving them money🤡

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That should never happen without equity. Controlling equity for the government.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Breach my man... But I got destroyed by the reddit normie brigade for such claims before.

They said that would make it communism... But giving rich clowns money is some how capitalism?

Their brain get broken in this 🐸

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it's just very capitalistic.

Look you need money and/or protection, else you go bankrupt. We can provide these but there is a cost. And since you cannot refuse, we get to dictate terms... Our terms are "a controlling interest".

Alternatively we allow you to go bankrupt and then buy the bankrupt organisation for even less.

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