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[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 155 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Umm annon that was not the wild web. The wild web was in the 90's and early 00's. That was truly the wild web.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 89 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nah I think they're more or less right. I'd maybe pull it back 3 or 4 years, but not as far as 2004.

What killed off the old wild web was the popularity of centralised platforms. Facebook (open since 2006, really started taking off more around 2008/9), YouTube (first video 2005, really takes off from 2007/8), and Reddit (self posts first allowed in 2008), and other things like that which were admittedly great for allowing more people to share their creations with the world, but we're disastrous for the open web, because they killed off independent blogs, forums, and other smaller websites.

[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

MySpace was huge before Facebook, and it killed off a lot of blogs. Late 90s and early 2000s were truly the wild web IMO. I had a geocities page with its own forum before MySpace made me abandon it due to inactivity.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago

Webrings, RSS and dedicated blogs and forums were how we got around, Alta Vista would give you 1-2 relevant links eventually (after digging thing keyword spam) and then you’d follow the clues and links from each result and eventually strike gold. It was a skill that gate kept certain areas of the web, but in a good way.

But google was pretty awesome before it enshitification, same with Reddit and instagram (pre Facebook takeover).

We need a good non-profit search engine that can re-open the independent web that’s still there under the spam somewhere. But it sounds about as likely as overhauling the us election system, or reigning in capitalism in any way. Hard and expensive to rich people.

[–] mwproductions@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So it sounds like the Internet died in 2008.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 21 points 1 month ago

I would say it contracted a terminal illness at some point around 2006±1 and went into palliative care in 2008±1, but didn't fully die for another 5ish years. The death of Google Reader seems a good landmark to use, since RSS was a really helpful tool that became less necessary as sites became more centralised.

[–] scaramobo@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right about with the uprise of the smartphone i guess

[–] Alk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When people without computers were let loose onto the web.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not me browsing this from my phone app, no siree.

[–] Alk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It's true that my original comment was also from my phone haha.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I remember watching saddam hussein hanging video when i was 12, good times

[–] 50MYT@aussie.zone 32 points 1 month ago

Ah the good old "korn_music_vide.wmv" that immediately cuts to someone in an orange jump suit on their knees.

Korn really getting intense with the new music videos

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Ya, I remember the first time I went on rotten and my young mind was not prepared for it. Honestly I miss the good old days when the most shocking thing was lemonparty and tubgirl.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't forget about the goatse man

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

No, that one is burned into my eyes forever.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This sounds fucked but my mom actually was showing me these videos lol

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Good god lemon.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Googling CD Keys, Torrents and Cracks was easy back then. DC++ was the way to go and Limewire was not yet Infested with CP and Viruses. There was a sweet spot but only for 2 years. After that, the golden age of Piracy with the File-Hosters came and Reddit wasn't shit.

If I have to pinpoint the timeframe: When 4Chan got really unironic racist (and the Stromfront forum leaked to the rest)... oh and Facebook...

[–] Zagorath@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Oh man, we had DC++ semi-officially endorsed by the inter-college IT department at my university in 2013/14. It was fantastic, especially since in my first year we only got 5 GB of data per month (with a large number of unmetered sites, including anything from Google), so without the unmetered file intranet it'd have been really hard to manage. Unfortunately as they increased the data caps it killed the popularity of DC++, which ended up getting killed off not long after I left.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Too many beheadings in the wild web. But yeah, those years were really the wild web.