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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 33 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Let's not vilify people asking for citations. With AI it's more important than ever to verify what you're reading.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm absolutely okay with vilifying people asking for sources on the historical existence of snow.

[–] underisk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The historical existence of snow depends on where you’re talking about. Climate is changing but not every manifestation of that will cause less snow. It’s possible some places start getting more as rising temperatures create more moisture in the air in places that are historically cold and dry. For example, parts of the mountains here in Nevada had unusually high snowfall, like Lee’s Canyon While looking at (what appears to be) the historical data for the US overall doesn’t seem to show a significant deviation at a cursory glance.

Saying these things are obviously true while not bothering to check if they’re factually accurate is misrepresenting the problem and leaves openings for climate denialists to make themselves more credible. “You said snowfall was going down but it just saw record snowfall in the news!” Which is a bad argument but a convincing one to people who aren’t inclined to deal with a global apocalyptic problem.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm talking about the fact that it ever happened, at all, anywhere. In this sense and in this spirit that I say "the historical existence of snow." It's not about a particular place or amount.

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Pretty bold comment for someone with no sources.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Sealioning is not about citations. It's bad-faith harassment.

Bad faith only works because it resembles good faith. Calling it out is not somehow a condemnation of good faith.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago