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WtA is very weirdly fixated on a lot of such stuff, IMO. IDK about WtF.
By the way, have you taken a look at Exalted 3e and Exalted Essence?
On that topic, Exalted VS Old World of Darkness is a pretty fun one for the entire point of it being punching all that edgy bullshit in the fangs with shiny golden bullshit that can actually improve society somewhat. Or doubling down on the edgey power thematics, but not having to pay the awwwwwful price and be all mopey about being Killhard Soulshitter.
Abyssals, arguably Infernals (they seem rather nice in Essence, though).