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[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

are you literally questioning whether concrete policy comes from discussion? do you think 1 guy just snaps his fingers and makes it so?

politics doesn’t require 1 action… politics and swaying large groups of people requires those people to discuss and support to build over time

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am asking you how you translate broad discussion into enacted policy.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the way you do for literally anything else that becomes policy… discussion is an absolute requirement to forming policy. it is, without exception, the only way to start making any change

what comes after that is varied and complex

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes. I am asking you about the "varied and complex" proceeses that turn talked about policy into policy.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that’s called politics mate, and since it’s varied and complex - obviously so - i refuse to engage because i no longer believe you’re acting in good faith

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I am 100% acting in good faith. My point is that you can signal all you want, but that absolutely does not mean you can cross the finish line. Parties in power do not operate based on what the public wants, but what their donors want. The US doesn't have federally enshrined abortion rights, medicare for all, stricter gun laws, even though the majority want those, because party donors do not.

Organizing is how you get popular policy through. MLK Jr., the Black Panther Party, and Malcolm X got the Civil Rights movement to actually enact change, not just discussion, because the government was worried about armed revolt.