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Sheesh, there sure are a lot of hexbear users here piling onto anybody with a different opinion
Edit: I went ahead and queried the lemmy database from a federated instance I have access to.
These are the top 3 instances commenting in this specific post at the time of writing (2023-08-25 08:02 UTC):
These are the top 3 instances and their comment counts on any post in lemmy.ml/c/unixporn this month at the time of writing:
You're reading that right, hexbear has a whopping FIVE comments in this community that are not part of this post.
For the curious, those 5 comments at the time of writing are:
One of which is especially hilarious as we see a hexbear user that's been railing on people in this post using the very term they're condemning here. Strong convictions? Perhaps bandwagoning the hexbear teet? Who knows. Definitely not suspicious ๐
Those different opinions being... using racist terms? Just to get that straightened up
Look ma, another one! Do you all take shifts on duty watching this thread?
Different opinions being challenging your collective definition of the word being inherently racist. You can hem and haw all you want but meanings can change over time. If it can start being used racially at one point it can surely stop at another.
do you ''different-opinion-havers'' also take shifts whenever there's a racist term to defend?
This is my only comment in this thread. I clicked on this post because it showed up in my feed, simple as. Everyone who talks about hexbear brigading, piling on, or "taking shifts" doesn't understand how federation works. Hexbear has been a highly active website with a large userbase for years now, so I don't know what you would you expect to happen when a large discussion-based website shows content... the people on that website are going to discuss that content.
This is true. But the group of people who get to decide whether or not something is racist is the group that is the target of that racism. White people don't get to decide the n-word is no longer racist. Hetero people don't get to decide the 3-letter f-word isn't homophobic. And no individual gets to decide because it's a cultural issue. Obviously meanings of words change and evolve, but they do so organically, and trying to force a racist term into regular usage and then say "it's not racist anymore because I wasn't intending to use it that way" is itself some really racist shit.
They're not the only ones calling y'all out. Stop defending using racist terms.
Y'all need to learn to understand context. Someone born in 1988 with 88 tattooed on them is not inherently racist. Someone with 88 tattooed right under their swastika tat is racist.
I don't have time to run every term through the book of hidden meanings for racists that you people seem to have. It's not racist in this context and the only ones trying to make it that way are those like you. Let it die.
Okay but this is literally the racist usage of the word.
Ooh shift change. Why do you lot latch onto a rehtorical question so hard? Is your victim complex really that strong? I simply pointed out that a lot of hexbear users are piling onto those that disagree with the OP and you're proving my my point. You detach from the discussion and start going after the person almost every time.
Btw you should really share notes, one of your comrades already tried to say I didn't understand how federation works and you're both wrong. Keep trying though ๐ฅฑ
Perhaps you should click my profile before talking out of your ass. I am a lemm.ee user that explicitly supported defederating Hexbear in our meta thread on it. I'm not super fond of how they participate generally, but they are quite right about this one.
Oops, did you forget to switch accounts the first time you commented? Or do you just share the lack of reading comprehension with your hexbear friends? I didn't say it was only hexbear users piling on, just that there were a lot of them.
Big Dean Browning vibes my internet person. If you think I'm talking out of my ass I don't want to know where you're talking from right now. Yikes.
It showed up as you replying to me talking about shift change at hexbear so idk what you want from me man. You can pretend I am a hexbear that inexplicably posted about wanting to defed them days ago just so I could gotcha someone, but I'm just a Linux guy who would rather we didn't use racist terms.
The shift change comment was to a hexbear user, as the screenshot shows. For what it's worth I had to go to the hexbear instance to see the full thread, your reply was coming up with no way for me to view context so I wasn't sure if I actually fucked up or what happened. We can blame Lemmy growing pains I suppose.
I'm also just a Linux guy getting by. But I reject the notion that a term considered racist in one context continues to be so outside of that context, terms that only exist in a racist context (n word) not withstanding. All of the times I've seen rice used to describe a person's DE changes has always been a point of pride and not pejorative. This one's ripe to defang and the people interested in perpetuating it as racist are largely hexbear users and some stragglers that align with them on this point.
That said I don't care if the term changes or not, but the apparent brigading and piling on centered around hexbear users masquerading as "omg we're just so popular" is laughable.