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How bad do we all think things are likely going to get in the west/imperial cores? How quickly do we think the west's internal spiral to fascism is going to proceed? (hexbear.net)
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Saw this thread, and it really hit a chord with me, as these similar fears tend to constantly weigh on me (for various reasons- being trans, ethnic Chinese, commie, etc).

I think we all (leftists, but also just most minorities) know, shit is bad and will get worse, it's just a question of how bad it will get. People mention it offhand without usually going further into the details, and similarly in other spaces - non-leftist ones as well, for instance Asian diasporic and LGBT spaces in my experience, these fears come up, but ultimately we keep the bulk of our concerns to ourselves. What are our expectations here, for the west? Not just for the US, but the Anglosphere and Europe?

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[–] iie@hexbear.net 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (9 children)

in the US there aren't enough white people to take over the country, I think it'll be neoliberal police state transphobia, not third reich transphobia.

*not trying to be flippant with this brief comment, just trying to be concise because I don't have the credibility to be verbose

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 8 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

The Nazis never won an actual majority even in manipulated elections. 75% is absolutely enough to go full third Reich.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Jews were less than 1% of the population in prewar Germany

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They didn't only go after Jewish people though, they also attacked the various traveller peoples living in Germany, gay people, leftists and dozens of other relatively small groups.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 1 points 4 weeks ago

I realize, but if you add up everyone they targeted it wasn't 1 in 4 people.

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