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Most of the things they named weren't caused by cars.
90% of the things they named weren't cars but in practice if you actually compare cities with tons of cars vs ones with few you'll find that removing cars removes 90% of the noise.
Though It may be that not being bombarded with car noise makes people quieter as well (like how being in a loud crowd makes you want to speak up as well).
If a city was too quiet I'd go from being annoyed at all the noise to being paranoid that I'll be the one being too loud.
And that's why people do less yelling when there aren't cars around. That's why removing cars makes the other stuff quieter.
I live in a quiet neighborhood and it's totally not an issue. Even when I lived in an apartment in a quiet neighborhood, it still was largely a non-issue. Quiet is good, and it encourages landlords and homeowners to install proper sound-proofing to preserve it.
I live in a quiet neighborhood and it’s an issue for me.
Until my neighbors dogs start barking and then I’m annoyed again.
I do not like proximity to humans.
A lot of the things they name aren't inherently city noises, either, though. I don't live near any concert venues or airports, so I don't hear noise from either of those sources. You could live in the middle of nowhere, but if you live above the local bar, it shouldn't come as a surprise that it's loud on Friday and Saturday nights. Dogs and birds aren't exactly uniquely urban phenomena, and the sound of peoples' shoes on the sidewalk being a major source of noise just strikes me as absurd.
Yeah I don't know where they're coming from if they're not used to birds. I just got an impromptu concert by the wren who lives in my azalea and it was lovely.
Cars are far louder than most of the things on the list, only gunshots, airplanes and construction can even remotely exceed the level of noise pollution produced by a busy roadway.
It also turns out that a lot of the construction is due to cars in one way or another:
If you remove the cars and build with density in mind, a lot of that goes away.
Some of the non car things have to be louder because of cars. People yell louder when they have hearing damage from cars. Sirens need to be louder.