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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

They’re objectively better

From what I heard, Orange Pi had lots of software problems for instance with drivers, and the quality of distros are not nearly as good as the official for Raspberry Pi.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

If all you want to run is their essentially proprietary spins of Linux then go overpay for a Raspberry Pi.

If you actually want freedom of choice for software and universally good driver support then ditch ARM and go for good old x86 based SBCs like the Radxa X4 which is in the same price range and has better performance while also being a completely standard Intel N series (formerly Celeron) based PC.

Shit like this is why I don't have high hopes for ARM based PCs no matter how hard Microsoft, Qualcomm, Nvidia, and MediaTek push for them. x86 and its ecosystem have basically perfected the formula for machines with standardized software interfaces and peripherals with the sole exception being GPUs which will always be a PITA on any platform.

Even if you want to only talk about Linux while the kernel itself may support a fuck ton of architectures all the rest of the software you might want to use is only guaranteed to work on x86. On everything else it may or may not work well and for proprietary stuff it may not even be ported to other architectures at all.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The Orange Pi 5 is a completely standard Rockchip RK3588S board. That SoC has complete driver support in Linux, and pretty good support on Windows as well.

I can't speak to any other Orange Pi products as that is the only one I have.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That SOC has a MALI GPU, and last I heard MALI drivers are flaky in Linux.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile the Broadcom VideoCore is completely undocumented and only works with their kernels.

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

software problems

Not having "out of the box" support does not make it a problem tho.

quality of distros

All distros are the same, considering they all run GNU/Linux and anyone can configure em at will.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Not having “out of the box”

Where did I say it should absolutely work "out of the box?" Compiling your own drivers can be OK too, but obviously less convenient.

All distros are the same,

No they are definitely not, there are huge differences in availability, quality, configuration and age of packaged software. And finally there are differences in security updates. Also the difference in hardware makes a difference in how well it's supported with drivers.

A general problem with Arm is that the GPU is poorly supported, and if you want stable drivers, you have tro use an old kernel.

Your response reeks of propaganda.