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[–] dontgooglefinderscult@lemmings.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I said it has the highest chance of accomplishing that. Not that it will without others also breaking out of the duopoly.

Neither main party will ever even pause support for Israel, both candidates have made that clear. Therefore there is no chance of them stopping the genocide or even reducing American involvement. In fact both have eagerly fought over who would aide this genocide more.

Therefore the only possible chance is voting third party or advocate for things against Lemmy's tos.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Or… take a longer view and follow the strategy I outlined.

The Palestine/Israel situation didn’t just start this election cycle; voting third party isn’t going to fix it, or even help the victims at all — in fact, it will likely harm them. But strategically voting over the next four cycles or so could go a long way to improving not just that issue, but many others.

[–] dontgooglefinderscult@lemmings.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also just to point out, your solution requires 16 years. At the current rate Palestinians will be wiped out of the region by 2026.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago

Yes; that is the problem.

[–] dontgooglefinderscult@lemmings.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah that's cute, you started out correct. Then you used moon logic to assume no one ever did that or thought of doing that.

You people have been advocating that since the parties hyper normalized, guess what, it hasnt worked out.

So no. That's not a thing that works. Strategic voting, lesser evil ism has resulted in both political parties openly advocating for genocide. It has not worked. It did not work in the Weimar Republic, it did not work in England in response to Hitler, its not worked so far here, and it's not going to.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 weeks ago

I’d be interested to know what sort of “you people” you think I am.

The problem is, the only thing worse than tweaking a strategy that’s never worked in the past and expecting change is choosing a new strategy that logically will never work, by design, and expecting change.

Look at history and tell me what was needed to stop the governments of the most powerful nations from supporting genocide overseas.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

strategically voting over the next four cycles

The wild thing is that you are being serious, unless we return strategically to its Greek root and create a people's army to solve the problem