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    Most Linux users prob won't care if Win10 dies.

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    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    btw if windows 10 dies, windows 11 will be forced on windows users, which is like 10000x times worse (personal experience). This is why i want to switch to linux when i get a decent computer (no, that linux distro i choose can't be further from the "linux will run on everything" quote)

    [–] vox@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

    win11 is a major improvement tbh.
    process scheduling doesnt suck as much as it used to and bluetooth has AAC support (win10 only has sbc which sounds bad)
    defender is much harder to get rid of though (but you can still get rid of almost all online features and telemetry including ms accounts using group policies as long as you have Enterprise or a LTS version)

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    privacy is even more nonexistent, everything is cluttered and the gui is very inconsistent. And for me, bluetooth usually doesn't work at all after updating for win11

    [–] vox@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    bt is not as good on linux (takes like 10 seconds to pick up my earbuds after i take them out vs up to 2 seconds on linux) but its still a major improvement. the new tiling seems pretty cool but eh didnt end up using it. virtual desktops and dual monitors work a lot better although switching desktops can break taskbar icons (and that bug still hasnt been fixed since release)

    [–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

    For me, preinstalled windows 11 cannot connect to my android phone through bluetooth. Was afraid its hardware incompatibility but it just works in linux

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    For me it is way less pain to set up and work using linux than…, …that…

    [–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I've used windows 11 once on a mini PC just because that is what was preinstalled and I needed to make sure everything worked. My first impressions of the core UI was actually kinda good except it's windows, so you know literally none of the apps are going to follow the same design, so it really does not matter. I promptly put OPNsense on the miniPC as soon as I saw the 2 NICs show up in device manager.

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    the ui is very inconsistent on windows. You can have a time travel when browsing through the settings

    [–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

    Exactly my point. Some of it looks nice like KDE, but the rest is just a mashup of different design languages and philosophies that do not mesh together. The disk utility comes to mind as one that is pretty horrible for how important it is.

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Use bazzite when you do. It's awesome

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    better than Garuda? Bazzite is based on Fedora. I used fedora, and hated it. Basically no selection between packages, it only has a very few amount

    [–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Does Garuda still use latte dock? I recall that project being dead.

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    since when it is dead... It is still an active project with thousands of users, the forum is also active. what is latte dock btw?

    [–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I meant latte dock is dead. It's a Mac OS-like dock.

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    You wouldn't? It shipped with The KDE-Dragonized version or whatever it's called. I assumed you used that version because it's the most popular version. I was asking if the Garuda devs still ship latte dock with the KDE edition.

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

    i looked up, and no, they no longer use it. It is a rolling release, so it evolves fast

    [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Chipping in, I have no idea what Garuda is, but I also hated working with Fedora, probably because I started off on Debian-based systems and couldn't wrap my head around Fedora.

    Bazzite, being an immutable distro, is intended where you shouldn't need to use the Fedora package manager, so you instead install applications sandboxed like AppImages, flatpaks, etc. I've been fine with this for my gaming PC, but currently I still use and prefer Debian (LMDE) for my study laptop because I have easier control over it.

    Overall it comes down to what you want out of your computer and what works best for you, that's the beauty with Linux, but I thought I'd chip in and mention not to write off Bazzite for being Fedora based, as someone who couldn't get behind Fedora.

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Garuda is an Arch-based, gaming-focused distro which tries to simplify Arch to a beginner's level

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Just use distrobox with Ubuntu or Debian for your tools and such. It tightly integrates with your OS and doesn't sacrifice the immutability

    [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

    I might consider that actually, I was trying to use secureblue instead of LMDE for the better security, and this was part of why I gave up on it. Cheers!

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    It's awesome. The packages don't matter because you use distro box if there's not a flatpak that works already. I have an Ubuntu distro box for tools for things that don't work on fedora.

    It uses ublueos for an immutable which is rock solid. Idk how to explain it well, but it's the only distro I want anymore.

    If u do end up trying it and find a package that doesn't work, ping me and I'll get you a command you can run to do it

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    immutable? does it have an immutable file system? that's a perfect way to fill up and corrupt any storage

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    The root filesystem is immutable, not the entire filesystem. So when you do upgrades and things it's super easy to roll back and you never need to rebuild your entire OS if a package is messed up or something.

    Tbh I'm not great at explaining it, I'd just look up a YouTube video for it.

    https://youtu.be/5w7gG0bMIeI?si=k1XGQDPbHxcborXe

    Bazzite uses silverblue with other gaming related features

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I just use snapback on btrfs with endeavourOS 🤔 works just as well, I recon, or what is the difference?

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I believe bazzite is on btrfs by default. I just like the concept of a read only root filesystem. It helps make everything more stable so far for me personally

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I just do not delete system files 🌚 jk

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yeah, until that one time when you tell apt to force install a package and it fucks your entire system...

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    😯why would I force it?

    BTW, I do not like APT very much

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I've installed .deb files before that fail or miss dependencies, then you get stuck in a half applied state and have to force fix your apt packages.

    I'm not saying I'm doing it right, but its happened before more than a few times to me, but not on bazzite

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Ah, yea, that is one of the reasons I don’t like APT… 😂

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yup, but now I get to use whatever distro I want with distrobox. It's awesome

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    😁 I still never had an app that I wanted requiring it, but I’m very happy having it as quick temporary solution if I ever stumble over an app that does not run on Arch yet (In such cases I would try to fix the AUR package 😇)

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Just had an example of this working for me. Parsec only publishes a .deb file, and the flatpak is out of date / unmaintained. They don't have Nvidia decoding anywhere but Ubuntu. But with distrobox / boxbuddy I can get a fully-featured parsec install that runs on a distrobox. Works perfectly, and even has an application in my host application menu. It's bad ass

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    😁i can do just “yay parsec” and install it

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

    Ofc, but then you now have a dependency on a specific version of ffmpeg for your root OS

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

    I meant for bazzite. You can use an arch distrobox and it'll be like you had arch installed already

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    is it better than Garuda's zstd backups?

    [–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

    I've never used Garuda so I can't comment on that. It just behaves like the steam deck but uses fedora